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  1. MSRP is a pipe dream…

    Honestly I do not care what someone spends their money on it is their money. But you do not know this. Ford could very well pull out of the NA market again if the Ranger does not sell well to make the Bronco. Lots will depend on the markets, the economy. There also is allot of competition in...
  2. MSRP is a pipe dream…

    You just described the internet. All my hobbies I use forums and same stuff goes on. Facebook groups are far worse. Actually 5G has been pretty good except when the big pollical thread started spilling over to everything.
  3. MSRP is a pipe dream…

    There were allot of people who bought the Maverick at msrp only to find yea the dealer sold at MSRP but then tacked on different office fees, nitrogen filled tires and protection packages etc..
  4. Ford Motor Company Here

    I am not positive but I do not believe dealers would go away. I think you just order from Ford and pick up at dealer. Dealer still handles service. I also think dealer will be there for test drives. There is no haggle and you buy direct from Ford. Also think dealer still gets their cut on the...
  5. Bulletin: 2024 Ranger Production Delayed to September (9/1/23)

    Good points. Let me say this though about parts shortage? Do you put them on the Bronco or Ranger since they share allot of the same parts? During covid I stopped in on my Ford dealer a few times to look or oil changes. They always had F150's but I saw almost no Rangers and most of the time...
  6. Bulletin: 2024 Ranger Production Delayed to September (9/1/23)

    You know I have been thinking of some of the comments here and in other threads. I agree with allot of them. I really do not feel Ford is committed to the Ranger. It had a terrible launch Re launch in NA so much so it was drastically reduced with rebates and dealer incentives by November 2019...
  7. Ford Motor Company Here

    Even if you get MSRP that does not stop the dealer from adding addons like paint protection etc.. That happened to allot of Maverick buyers. They go to pick it up and there are all these add ons and dealer added fees.
  8. Bulletin: 2024 Ranger Production Delayed to September (9/1/23)

    I have to wonder when the Taco will release too. Considering only a handful were even built for the event and allot of those were not even complete because they didn't have the parts. Even if available they will mostly be sold out for a while. When the Taco did even a minor refresh they were...
  9. Bulletin: 2024 Ranger Production Delayed to September (9/1/23)

    This is why I originally got a Colorado. Got tired of waiting for around 2 years for the USA Release of the Ranger launch after delay and delay and delay. I would probably still be driving the Colorado but when Ford had a hard time selling the Ranger and offered up to 8000.00 in rebates and...
  10. Just did my build-and-price. WOW, are these things pricey!!!

    Ford maybe the wild card in all of this but I do think there will be a price war in the segment especially in the USA. Yea it seems like if Ford has extra production they want to do the Bronco. They do not feel committed to this sector. It certainly feels they only want to compete on the stuff...
  11. Just did my build-and-price. WOW, are these things pricey!!!

    There is going to be a price war coming up.. There are high interest rates. All these new smaller trucks out in a short period and maybe more to come. Dodge is rumored to have a Dakota and Toyota a small truck to go against the Maverick. All these vehicles have jumped allot in price. The market...
  12. Competition: 2024 Tacoma Revealed!

    Yea I was editing my post while you posted. Yea the GMC is higher priced but with incentives down the road maybe not too bad. Honestly though I was pricing it out and it is not as bad as it seems because it already includes allot standard. Like the AT4 I think comes with a 2" lift standard...
  13. Competition: 2024 Tacoma Revealed!

    Yea no idea on new gen but last gen Taco was uncomfortable I am over 6' tall. They did raise the seat on new gen. Ranger I saw in a video and it looked exactly like the seat I have in my Ranger which is extremely comfortable. It looks to me like seats are exactly the same as 5G. I also owned a...
  14. Competition: 2024 Tacoma Revealed!

    Same here. I have said it before I do long trip so comfortable is important. I have time to wait I am not one of those who has to have something the minute it comes out, I am not in a rush. Seen to many burns on early adopters. Look at the people that jumped on the 6G Ranger in Australia and...
  15. Competition: 2024 Tacoma Revealed!

    Hmm weird I can click on it and every one that quoted me. It was on reddit and it was the TRD PRO. Maybe Ranger6g is blocking it.
  16. Competition: 2024 Tacoma Revealed!

    The link was in my post. What is funny is had had not even known they set the price yet.
  17. Competition: 2024 Tacoma Revealed!

    They all have been doing it. What is funny is in that particular thread they keep pointing out Ford. But Toyota dealer have done it in the past. Last small revision I think they added like android and carplay to the Taco they did the exact thing. I saw Hyundai dealers do it with that small...
  18. Competition: 2024 Tacoma Revealed!

    Wow anyone see the mark up on the new Taco. Retail 53,000 15,000 market adjustments. then they have all dealer add ons which are crazy high. Saw a couple of things yesterday on it like :
  19. New competition is revealed!

    Most wont say anything negative in any video event or not. These YouTube influencers for the most part is not where you want a opinion because most wont say anything bad or never another invite to anything. Anyway does anyone know if the Taco have 4 wheel auto on all trims? I know the...
  20. New competition is revealed!

    Kind of make me think Ford is not taking the USA/NA market seriously. Also makes me wonder how committed they are to it. If the Ranger does not sell well will they leave it again. You want to sell lots of them you need to show you are committed. A USA company giving more love overseas, what...


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