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  1. MSRP is a pipe dream…

    Like your optimism on new trucks all over lots with no ADM 👍 however not seeing it becoming reality. Are we seeing Lightning F-150s all over lots now? Both Toyota and Nissan currently don’t take customer retail orders and simply ship a couple units to dealers each month. Nissan actually has ADM...
  2. MSRP is a pipe dream…

    There’s 2 phases to long term retirement planning. You are only addressing the 1st phase: the Accumulation phase, which is generally before you retire. The 2nd phase is the Draw Down phase where your emphasis shifts from building up your portfolio and accounts to spending it down in the most tax...
  3. MSRP is a pipe dream…

    Maybe not. Some are leveraged to the max and survive using credit and massive debt they normally can’t sustain. Keeping up with the Jones’. My wife and I always lived below our means comfortably on no more than middle class income. Been retired since 2014 and simply continued what we always did...
  4. MSRP is a pipe dream…

    I must have missed the respect part. We don’t set the rules for this game. You play by their rules, or stay out of the game. I agree about paying cash being the best way most of the time. I have been fortunate enough to do that strictly since 2007. When I was younger and struggling I didn’t...
  5. MSRP is a pipe dream…

    Thank you, and best wishes to you and your wife. I didn’t even want to post this personal stuff, but gentle suggestions about paying ADM in different life situations didn’t seem to register. It is always said many things are treatable and manageable if caught early and we need to advocate for...
  6. MSRP is a pipe dream…

    Totally reasonable. I’m currently leaning Nissan Frontier as they have them on lots right now in the configuration I want with extended cab + 6’ bed, 2WD. It’s assumed Ranger will eventually have that configuration- but when and how much? Nissan is well priced, equipped, and shipping from...
  7. Delivery time "24 Ranger Lariat

    I saw pictures of the line at MAP that had Broncos, Rangers and Raptors mixed together going down line at same time. People like to assume Ford tries to build higher priced units 1st and delays others behind them, but I’m pretty sure they they build what they can based on latest deliveries by...
  8. MSRP is a pipe dream…

    Are people insisting they won’t pay more than MSRP going refuse taking possession of their trucks after a long wait if dealer reneges on previous MSRP promise or installs add ons you didn’t agree to and won’t sell the truck without them? This is happening industry wide daily…
  9. MSRP is a pipe dream…

    Hope you have good shoes for all that walking 😝 popular items in short supply have always commanded premium prices. It is, what it is. Just don’t keep whining on here next couple years while everyone else posts about enjoying their new trucks and all you have to show for all the wasted time is...
  10. Delivery time "24 Ranger Lariat

    Milestones until Ok To Buy are what to follow. No matter when production starts, they need to have government MPG results, possibly NHST crash data or other things before OKTB and shipping completed units to dealers.
  11. MSRP is a pipe dream…

    Ahh, the innocence of youth. I remember it fondly. All my life I felt 10’ tall and bulletproof. Had a great career that let me retire early and move away to a nice mountain community with healthy retirement accounts. Learned about Mavericks before Ford admitted it was real. Local dealer policy...
  12. MSRP is a pipe dream…

    How about showing a little restraint and respect for people that operate differently from your idealism instead of name calling? People pay what they are comfortable with based on their own situation and boycotting a big company for using market price is unworkable.
  13. Ford Motor Company Here

    When Ford invented the assembly line and produced affordable cars for the masses, you ordered it from a catalog and the only color option was Black. Eventually a guy named Cal Worthington responded to the need for customers wanting to see a car in person before buying and opened the 1st...
  14. Ranger 2.7 lariat question here....

    Maverick is a whole different animal and not directly comparable to any mid size truck 🛻
  15. Ford Motor Company Here

    More likely dealers would simply drop Ford and pick up other franchises like Korean, anything in the Stellantis universe, Tata, Vietnamese, or even Chinese like BYD. 1 year after I bought my Pontiac Vibe Pontiac folded. The dealer I bought from already had Mazda and started carrying other brands...
  16. Bulletin: 2024 Ranger Production Delayed to September (9/1/23)

    Remember the shrunken down Bronco 2 around same time as Mustang 2? Honey I shrunk the Bronco!
  17. Ford Motor Company Here

    And providing a steady stream of used vehicles and helping people upgrade by taking their trade in. What do you do if you buy a new truck without even seeing 1 in person- and you hate it when it arrives on a transport at your house? You gonna get a free return and full refund no questions asked...
  18. 2024 Rangers on the lots?

    Ford held multiple regional driving clinics before 5G launched
  19. Ranger 2.7 lariat question here....

    F-150 has Aluminum body that could account for some of its efficiency vs. Ranger?
  20. Ranger Lightning EV

    More and More Americans Don't Want to Buy Electric Cars (businessinsider.com) More and more Americans don't want electric cars Americans are getting more divided on electric vehicles. While EVs gain market share, more and more people say don't want one as their next car. Factors repelling...


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