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  1. Possibly canceling order

    couple more points to consider: are the window stickers between the 2 trucks showing the same MSRP & Destination charges or was there a price increase between the 2? If you take the truck without the steps, then your total MSRP should be less on that 1.
  2. Possibly canceling order

    pretty sure Ford points come with all new vehicle purchases. Something like 42k points for a new purchase on these IIRC
  3. Possibly canceling order

    You can rest assured the dealer won't actually "cancel" your order. They'll just let it come in and mark as customer refused and recategorize it as dealer stock and sell it on their lot. Don't let them con you into thinking they are doing a big favor and not treat you fairly on selling the...
  4. The Con Job!

    Must be a generational thing. I grew up driving with good old reliable keyed ignitions and see no benefit whatsoever having push button start and key fobs. Just more stuff to break and cost bigger $ to fix with a trip to the dealer instead of easy DYI. I have push button start in both my 2013...
  5. Raptor Waitlist?

    dealer is just being real with you. You expressed interest in a vehicle that doesn't exist yet and they confirmed your interest. Now it's a waiting game, step by step. You can't expect more than that and you may not be the only 1 expressing interest and they don't have to tell you either way...
  6. Juice worth the squeeze?

    hey, I was gentle with the newb. didn't sink to his level of profane insults. sis in law made tacos for my bday the other night, and they were good- but the ribs at the restaurant last night were even better 😋
  7. Major Ford Screw Up on Seats

    you can bet there is pressure on line workers not to vigorously flag something that would result in line stoppage, if it can be remedied later in process- even at the dealer. Run out of matching front & back seats but have inventory in 2 different colors that would still allow vehicle completion...
  8. Juice worth the squeeze?

    wasn't responding to you there Captain Kangaroo. OBVIOUSLY, reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. MYOB
  9. Juice worth the squeeze?

    being in advertising and PR you should be able to imagine the manpower and budget it would take to collect and report minute changes at each factory on each shift and collate them in real time and notifying each order holder of what might turn out to be a quickly remedied "problem" or false...
  10. Juice worth the squeeze?

    your 1st mistake is thinking you are entitled to anything as a consumer here. Your remedy is walking away from the deal at any time before completing sales contract and taking delivery. Most basic incorrect assumption is this "could easily be remedied with some very basic and transparent...
  11. Ranger Raptor Allocations

    if you have been following the state of the economy and reporting on the average family cost of living (taken with a mountain of salt of course) there just aren't many people well off enough to financially afford a luxury item like a Raptor. This is an enthusiast purpose-built vehicle with a...
  12. Make sure you check underneath

    those guys are FOS. My 2024 King Cab SV 2WD has standard towing capacity of 6670lbs. (lowest model S trim is 50lbs higher) and payload of 1610 lbs. (lowest max payload any trim is 1230 lbs. in ProX Crew Cab 4x4) All trims come standard with sway control and the SV with Convenience package comes...
  13. So the Ranger Raptor DOES have the irritating Auto Start Stop?

    Incorrect, it is EPA mandated for emissions and there is an implementation deadline that carries penalties if manufacturer misses it. I read it on the internet so it must be true. Nissan was getting pressured and holding off as long as possible until they finally had to have a "2023.5" model...
  14. So the Ranger Raptor DOES have the irritating Auto Start Stop?

    I do not know for sure. Basing on my Maverick experience, when I could 1st pull up the sticker it didn't have ramp info, blend date, etc. All that got added along the way until it was shipped finally. IIRC, it also had "unofficial" or similar watermark across it initially? Not sure Maverick and...
  15. So the Ranger Raptor DOES have the irritating Auto Start Stop?

    whatever is on your final window sticker when confirmed it's shipped is what you will get.
  16. Make sure you check underneath

    not sure what you mean by "dated" interior in NIssan? Is it the lack of a large digital screen(s) for controlling everything like being at home at your gamer station? That huge vertical screen in 6G Ranger was very off putting and useless to me. Compare a Frontier SV with Technology and...
  17. Make sure you check underneath

    I'm glad I purchased my Frontier too. 1300 miles now since purchase Dec 13th. Been flawless so far. Was satisfying to actually buy 1 on my timeline instead of the ordering and waiting game as I experienced with Maverick. Ford didn't offer me a Ranger in a configuration that was useful for me...
  18. So the Ranger Raptor DOES have the irritating Auto Start Stop?

    FWIW: was told by my local Ford dealer when I asked about up tuning and enabling features on my Maverick, any use of Forscan will void your warranty. It is a Russian product and not considered secure SW.
  19. 2024 Ranger vs. Nissan Frontier comparison by TFL

    I agree with you it is the best looking midsize right now, but it takes a little getting used to and not expecting all the sharp angles and plastic fascia all over like the others. Curious what you think Frontier is lacking needed to bring it into this century? Mine has the wonderful automatic...
  20. 2024 Ranger First Reviews Are Here! 👈🏽

    I laid no blame on poor sales. There's many factors at play here: 1st gen Ranger was single cab only, just like Courier before it. Same with 2nd gen- I had a 1987 & 1993. Next gen introduced SCab but still same bed size- I had a 2000 & 2006 SCab and learned to prefer them. Very little updating...


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