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It's probably neither. They probably had X number of allocations and they ordered an XL and an XLT. So that filled their allocations this month. If they were scheduled before a retail order was placed (knowing the delays, they may have ordered them in August) then the retail will wait until...

I think TFL Truck got 24 with the Tacoma Limited. Also, those numbers aren't hybrids, just standard 2.4 Turbos. Hybrid numbers will be out in the spring ... but for sure expensive. Land Cruiser leaked numbers with the hybrid powertrain were 27mpg, and it's heavier. I guess we'll see. I...

To be fair, the new Tacoma is made in Mexico. Of course, so are most of the parts in the new Ranger. Multi-Nationals move the money where they need it. I do always find it funny when people talk about buying American while putting French BF Goodrich K02s (Michelin) or Japanese Falken Wildpeak...

Yes, but the Rangers were supposed to hit the dealers in late August. Toyota just started manufacturing this month. Dealers are expecting them early next month. It's a completely different system. You can't order your specific vehicle and you get stuck with any accessories from the...

It is hard to match up Trim - Trim. I really don't think the TRD Sport is a fair comparison to the XLT. I think you're more on par with an SR5. Similar equipment, not the same of course. If you upspec an SR5 you're at about the same money. Lariat and Limited are similar features, and again...

AVS is not the Fox Suspension parts they put on the TRD PRO (and RRaptor), it's an electronically managed variable suspension they put on the Limited Trim only. At this point, you can't get it on the Limited yet anyway. Also, the TRD PRO will probably get around 26mpg as opposed to the 14.5 on...

Called on both, no Joy. Scheduled 6/5 and 8/15, 1 Stock and 1 Retail. Black Raptor and Shelter Green Raptor. Losing faith. At this rate, I'll probably end up with a Taco. It wouldn't be so bad if these jerk Sales Managers aren't always acting shocked and telling me they'll call Ford. They...

Stock orders are for dealer inventory. Retail orders are when you go into the dealership and order a vehicle to your specs. So they are saying that they are scheduling customer orders (except Raptor) this week. Some of us have Raptor retail orders. I have both (Stock on 6/5 and Retail on...

Yeah, I don't think so. Toyota will sell as many of those as they can make. People were expecting 27, but got 24.. that's not too bad. Also, just because you 'can' tow 7000+ lbs with a medium sized Truck , doesn't mean you should. Honestly if you tow more than 5000lb regularly, you should be...

Actually, I’m in pretty good shape. I put a sizable down payment on my truck because Carvana was way over paying at the time and I sold my old truck to them. I was also able to purchase it with XPlan at a discount. It was right before everything blew up. I should still clear around 15,000 but...

The problem for me is every month that goes by my Trade (21 F150) is losing value. While I am excited to get the truck, these delays are costing me money. Job 1 was supposed to start in August. The amount I pay off on my truck is just not keeping up with the lost value.

I actually have 2 orders. A stock order that I put in in June, and the retail order I put it in August with a different dealership. both were for MSRP. None of them are scheduled.

That thread was more of an assumption than a fact. I guess we'll see, but there was a reason they were waiting on the 2.7 and it had to be how many engines were allocated to other platforms. Also, the engine plants did not shut down so they probably have a bunch of 2.7s. One can only hope...

I'm in the same boat. I really don't need any more off road ability than an FX4 would offer, but I didn't want another 2.3 (although I may) and the more I read about the Raptor needing premium fuel @ 14.5mpg I'm wondering if I made the right choice. I wanted to order the 2.7 initially but it...

When comparing the Ranger to the Bronco, please note that they are scheduling MY23. They are likely trying to finish out any remaining 23s before they start scheduling more 24s

The downside to that is everyone who is using their current vehicle trade-in as a downpayment values are dropping by the week as well. When I ordered my Raptor, trade in on my F150 was 43. Now when I look it up it's 39 at best. Granted I'm paying off more and more, but still...

I have been looking at the Canyon as well. For me it would be the AT4 (If I could find one nice and loaded) or the Denali. I couldn't handle the interior of the AT4x. Still like the Ranger or Tacoma better. I'm starting to feel like I may not see the Raptor. The longer this goes though, the...

I know that. If I got a Tacoma, it wouldn’t be too special. I’ve already talk to my local Toyota dealer where I know some people who work there. They said they can get me either a limited, or a Trd off-road pretty specked out. I really want my ranger raptor though.

The plant is on strike. The difference is that the Colorado was a 23 and there are still some on the lots. I'm wondering if they'll have specials on the 23s that are backed up at the plant so they can transition to 24. If that happens and I'm not scheduled, I may jump. Also Tacoma will start...

Same. here. I was looking at an AT4. Nice truck, but none around to buy.