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Is there a sliding scale for points depending on how you use them? When I bought my '21, 40,000 points were equivalent to $210 in service or accessories.

You are right, I was talking about Broncos in general. I've have never seen a Bronco Raptor IRL.

That makes sense. 5G Rangers don't have electronic parking brakes.

Another scenario is after a few RR's hit the road, people will realize it isn't as desirable as once thought. Same happened with the Bronco, yet I see more used Broncos on a non-Ford lot than anywhere else.

I've heard of hill assist. I've never heard of 'auto hold'. Does it automatically keep the brakes engaged until you press the accelerator? We're not talking about hill assist are we?

Why is that? F150 has 6 engine choices. The T6 platform has been proven to accept 2.7 V6 in Broncos. If Ford really wants to steer people away from Ranger, just do away with US Ranger. If Ranger wasn't available, that wouldn't compel me to buy an F150.

The 'got to have it now' mentality is the reason for high introductory prices on many thing. EX I-phones - people will line up day before release to replace last years model. manufactures know this, hence $1,000 - $1,500 phones. And as for Farley, that's just lip service. When I hear...

If I won the $200,000,000 lotto, I would not pay ADM. For some of us, it's the principle, not the price.

The part that worries me about it, is FoMoCo seeing that people are willing to pay an ADM of $5-10K, and thinking " If people are willing to pay that much, maybe we should raise MSRP", and then we all get it shafted.

What's the difference between 'stock' and 'retail'?

Yes, it's 'free' an on $57K truck, not at $32K truck.

Big screens, look at it all you want to find what you need. Just don't text and drive.

A lot of talk about 'Please do something about ridiculous ADM'. Yeah, Ford doesn't really care about that. If they say they do, it's just lip service. As long as the vehicles are sold, they don't care if a dealer adds 10K to the MSRP any more than if a dealer cuts the price by 10K. FMC got their...

ESP is Extended Service Plan, or Extended Warranty Granger and Flood are Ford dealers that sell ESP online. Granger sells it for $50 above cost. I bought an 8yr 125,000 mile for $1,600. Contact Granger here: https://www.grangerfordextendedwarranty.com

Are you talking about the new Tundra? I feel you are talking about the new Tundra. Can't sell what you don't have. Ranger sales were low because they aren't being produced due to demand for Bronco's.

I have it in my '21 with no problems. It's not the dual zone that interest me, it's auto climate control. Climate control is set it and forget it. I set the temp to 72deg, and it's always 72deg regardless of outside temperature. Manual AC control isn't that precises, it's just whatever at...

That's why I won't be buying first year, maybe '25 or'26. And from the looks of it, I'd be happy with the STX with 4x4 as option. But not at current price. If the STX drops to 30, I'm in.

So, XLT standard has manual AC. If you want dual zone climate control, you have to get the XLT High package for an additional $1445 or move up to Lariat. Just WOW!

I hear you. An STX starting at $34k seems ridiculous. No Tremor yet, but it may be coming with a price between FX4 and Raptor.

They should merge this thread with the OMG No Tremor!