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@Peter949 And that's the part I don't get, yes, the F150 is nice and popular, but for a lot of people, myself included, just don't want a large truck anymore. Our daughter is grown and out of the house, so the Ranger is just the right size for us for camping and just about anything else...

Thanks, kind of what I'd been reading too. I like the Raptor, but if what I've read is correct, the reduced towing & payload, not to mention price, made the Tremor or Lariat FX4 package appealing to me.

OK, done lurking, signed up today. Over the years I've had a 1994 Ranger Super Cab with a 4.0 V6. 2003 Sport Trac with 4.0 V6 and currently daily driver is a 2012 F150 FX4 5.0. I find the new mid size Ranger appealing, we no longer need the big F150, but I'm waiting for the 2025 (Tremor...