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There was several layers to it. CAFE standards were changing and incentivizing larger vehicles along with the mid size market not doing very hot in the US were key factors. Gas was also no where near as pricey as it is today so people didn't care about fuel economy as much as they do now. They...

I believe the non raptor rangers are 18 Gallons. to me that's not far off from the 21 Gal I have in my 19' f150.

that's my fear haha. I'm wrapping up a VA claim and don't want my truck here too quick!

Do you really not see the justified increase in the new ranger? Its like miles above the previous gen in updating and is priced competitively in its market. What everyone needs to realize is that non of us are paying customers. Not a single dime from you ordering has gone to ford and they...

do you think they enjoy not selling vehicles? where do you find any logic in the idea that they don't want these trucks out?

I would be surprised if raptors get any protection. Pretty sure they will have a Red window sticker and that generally also disqualifies them from Plan pricing as well. its different ball game than standard vehicles.

When I ordered my maverick, i got emails every time an update for my order occurred. No update, no email.

That's generally for towing purposes. the 2.0 in the maverick was fine on regular but the manual calls out 91 for towing.

*monkey paw curls

not as high as id like for the normal 2.3. i wonder with my habits if i could squeak a bit more. i average right about 19-20mpg with my 19" 150 with the 2.7.

so only another 150 orders or so added to the queue since last week. Once that line is running they'll have these puppies out in no time.

im getting my order submitted here soon. I'm in no rush though to get it though.

imagine giving you a timeline and failing to meet it. sometimes its better to not promise anything and since they have taken zero money from you, they are not really obligated to build you anything. It sucks for sure but being patient is really the only path forward.

or the maverick. Those poor Hybrid guys were taking a beating lol

I think that's fair and sounds like a realistic outlook. My point really is that I don't think most people if not all are going to have trouble getting their trucks this build* year especially if it's under 4k unscheduled. At this time in 2022 maverick hybrids were getting ready to shutdown...

Right. With the whole strike thing I'm not sure how any of this is gonna pan out but it doesn't seem as pressed to me. If it makes you feel better. There's 36,000 mavericks unscheduled as of October 30th.

Ohh I was thinking more so rangers across the board. The RR is another beast for sure. I wouldn't hold my breath.

Has there been any data or word on how many they intend to build? From my time when getting my maverick I believe they built like 80-100k mavericks in the first year with a insane amount of demand. Anecdotally this sub is much quieter than the maverick sub so I don't think demand for a ranger...

Confirmation of Lane centering is nice to see.