Coil rear springs, Watts link rear, Fox live valve shocks, factory beadlock wheels, wider front and rear axles? Further reduce the towing and hauling capacity in comparison?
Yea, suspension, wheels/tires, and interior changes. It’ll be interesting to see how the forthcoming Tremor fits in price- and feature-wise compared to the Raptor if they both have the 3.0. I wonder if Ford will take a page from GM’s playbook and stop selling performance tunes, instead selling the same engine with different tunes with the higher output going into the Raptor. Maybe the Tremor will be close in price to the Raptor with the Raptor sacrificing some tow/haul ability in favor of off-road performance. Well soon see, I suppose. But fwiw, when I shopped the gm’s I absolutely hated that the “engine upgrade” was nothing more than different software in the ECU.
It might be worse than people think. They may do away with the V6 in non-Raptor Rangers all together and offer only the 2.3L
Don't even put that out into the universe
Ya, but you can see why the OEMs like that. A software change is a lot less expensive than a different engine option.
Actually, the new 2.7 coming out on the 'Rado/Canyon is not just a software tune. TFL already did a test drive on a '27 Canyon and GM said the upgrade is a bigger turbo with more efficient cooling, hence the extra horses/torque. It's not just a software tune but the hardware to go with it. TFL also said the new engine sounds slightly more "throatier" but didn't really feel the extra power curve VS the old Canyon AT4X TFL used to own. I mean, in the end, u can only squeeze so much out of a small ass 4 banger engine.
I don't see this happening. IMO, Ford made the 2.7L an option because the competition was offering more hp and torque than the 2.3L could deliver. Chevy just upped the torque output of their 2.7L. Ford needs a V6 for the Ranger to stay relevant as a strong towing option in the lower trim levels. I think the 2.7L could be around for a few years. Timing likely depends on how fast they can raise production volumes of the 3.0L.
My sales guy says Ford will do something to differentiate between Raptor and Tremor to justify the higher RR price, despite all the Raptor features and off road capabilities. The same engine in both not the way to do it, to him. But we shall see when the comps and build come out.
I assumed that the hardware upgrades were just a new gen of their old 2.7 and they’d continue selling the same hardware across the line with different tunes. But I could be wrong!
As far as I am aware, the 2.7L/3.0L engines are the only US available engines they have that would work in the Ranger. With the F-150 getting the 3.0L I don't see Ford going to the expense of creating another engine for the Ranger, Bronco and Explorer. Especially when a high percentage of engines in the Explorer and Ranger are 2.3L. There really isn't much difference between the 2.7L and 3.0L engines from what I have read. The main ones are the 3.0L's lower block is aluminum and its bore and stoke are slightly larger. I think it says a lot about Ford's confidence in the 3.0L to make it the base engine in the F-150.
