2024 and up Ranger Cold Air Intake.

[Highspeedplay]

anyone runny an aftermarket setup I didnt see much but this one is listed as compatible
with HP gains.

https://afepower.com/afe-power-50-70122r-momentum-gt-cold-air-intake-system-w-pro-5-r-filter

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[Deepsea619]

anyone runny an aftermarket setup I didnt see much but this one is listed as compatible
with HP gains.

https://afepower.com/afe-power-50-70122r-momentum-gt-cold-air-intake-system-w-pro-5-r-filter

That’s the one I ordered but it’s been on back order for a lifetime now.

 

[Highspeedplay]

I didnt notice that, did they give you any ETA on the product.

 

[Satex]

anyone runny an aftermarket setup I didnt see much but this one is listed as compatible
with HP gains.

https://afepower.com/afe-power-50-70122r-momentum-gt-cold-air-intake-system-w-pro-5-r-filter

Just my $.02, but I'd look for some independent testing that verifies their claims. I don't have a specific reason to question the company's honesty, but without testing done by a disinterested party, I always assume that the data are the most optimistic possible and that actually achieving the results in my application isn't likely.

 

[Reddog99]

Do you understand that the stock intake is also a "cold air intake"???
Any power gains could probably be attributed to the washable filter they use and apply only to WOT. Also, be aware that washable filters flow more air by not filtering as well as paper filters.

 

[Highspeedplay]

Correct I would not take the power gains as absolute until other use it and dyno it. But at least your will increase the flow and potentially maximize your gains overall.

 

[RANGER/HOBB]

Just my $.02, but I'd look for some independent testing that verifies their claims. I don't have a specific reason to question the company's honesty, but without testing done by a disinterested party, I always assume that the data are the most optimistic possible and that actually achieving the results in my application isn't likely.

Until its released for sale to the public, I don't believe anyone will have such an opportunity. When it is, we"ll all see. Data is provided by dynamometer and specific SAE correction factors, not personal supposition or opinion.

Dynamometer readings are subject to; calibration, usage (wear), type of Dynamometer and regular maintenance. Each will provide a different number, based upon; the factors already spoken above, including; elevation and ambient conditions.

We also must include and consider the difference in; manufacture from one engine to another, mileage, and wear.

No two dynamometers HP/WHP readings will be alike. So a disinterested parties dynamometer testing, will provide no better representation then the manufactures. This is based upon what dynamometer they utilize and the specified factors mentioned above above.

Its a measuring tools, not an exact representation.

 

[Satex]

You're right and wrong. What you'll likely get from independent testing is ALL the data, rather than just the results from testing that yields the biggest gains.

I have zero experience with engine tuning and testing. But I have a lifetime of experience in drug testing. I believe the results from a double blind, placebo controlled trial done by competent researchers. I also know that the manufacturer is not going to show EVERY test.

Changing the field yet again, there's a reason why witnesses at a trial don't take an oath to simply tell the truth. They vow to tell the whole truth and to not cloud the story with anything that has nothing to do with the truth.

 

[RANGER/HOBB]

Do you understand that the stock intake is also a "cold air intake"???
Any power gains could probably be attributed to the washable filter they use and apply only to WOT. Also, be aware that washable filters flow more air by not filtering as well as paper filters.

The OEM is not a CAI, it's actually more of a hot air intake. The intake tube to the air box is still part of the engine compartment and sucks in hot air from the engine bay and top of the radiator shroud. You'd need a ram air duct (Velossa Tech Ram Air Duct) to call it a CAI.

https://www.velossatechdesign.com/p...r-and-tremor-big-mouth-ram-air-intake-snorkel

In realty, all of the currently manufactured and upcoming air intakes are in essence "hot air intakes, especially the metal fabricated units. The air box funnel, needs to be positioned outside the engine compartment ie; in from of the radiator or below the engine in the actual air stream in order to provide cooler air. Much like some of the older ram air systems used on 1970's vintage and some of the newer model muscle cars today.

There are obvious advantages in aftermarket intakes though; larger tubing and air box, greater CFM's, (bigger gulp of air), higher air ins air velocity, which provided greater combustion and hp.
https://www.carsandwrenches.com/the-pros-and-cons-of-cold-air-intakes-is-it-worth-the-upgrade/

 

[RANGER/HOBB]

You're right and wrong. What you'll likely get from independent testing is ALL the data, rather than just the results from testing that yields the biggest gains.

I have zero experience with engine tuning and testing. But I have a lifetime of experience in drug testing. I believe the results from a double blind, placebo controlled trial done by competent researchers. I also know that the manufacturer is not going to show EVERY test.

Changing the field yet again, there's a reason why witnesses at a trial don't take an oath to simply tell the truth. They vow to tell the whole truth and to not cloud the story with anything that has nothing to do with the truth.

In your opinion as I understand. Those (performance enthusiasts looking for horsepower increases, will generally take the highest HP number achieved as indicator of peak performance value. Dynamometer testing is; an average of 3 or more consistent runs not one.

What one dynamometer will provide another won't, even with an average of 3 runs. Again, such is subject to the conditions I specified in my other post above.

Drug testing is a matter of controlled, conclusive, testing data. It either provides the desired effect or it doesn't.

Dynamometer testing isn't, as there are too many variable factors involved. This is why I refer to it dynamometer testing as a "measurement," not an absolute. So, there' really no correlation between the two.

 

[Reddog99]

The OEM is not a CAI, it's actually more of a hot air intake. The intake tube to the air box is still part of the engine compartment and sucks in hot air from the engine bay and top of the radiator shroud. You'd need a ram air duct (Velossa Tech Ram Air Duct) to call it a CAI.

Well, then your truck is way different from mine. My air intake sucks from the front of the radiator and get NO underhood air.

 

[RANGER/HOBB]

Well, then your truck is way different from mine. My air intake sucks from the front of the radiator and get NO underhood air.

Its still within the engine compartment under the hood. As the engine compartment is heated, so does the incoming air to the air box. its called heat-soak, which produces higher IAT's and lower performance.

Only way to overt this is; to place the air funnel in front of the radiator, through the hood or below the engine as in a true CAI.

 

[DIYPSCM]

Fudge the inputs on a dyno, get fudged outputs. Its done all the time. The dyno only knows what it's told.

It's akin to putting a resistor inline with various sensors, fools the ECU into thinking the engine is colder than it is. The ECU only knows what it's told.

INDEPENDENT testing is required, and almost never done.

 

[Reddog99]

I don't know what you're looking at, but NO, my air intake it is NOT in the engine compartment.

 

[Highspeedplay]

LOL we just want to know when the part would be available. I have access to a Dyno so if and when I get one I will test it myself. The Dyno info is very helpful to see before and after changes. its SAE corrected to help give an even baseline other wise dont use . Its independent from the maker and only concludes information on the auto tested. Saying that its still very exact in the information you obtain. A friend and myself bought 2 hellcats 1 week apart and when we dyno tested them the same day ,they were with in 4 Hp from each either and dyno runs were only 4 HP apart after multiple runs some with in 1 HP. YMMV

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