Maverick VS Ranger, it is obviously a marketing issue!

[danmoochie]

I wasnt talking about just the engine weight either. But what is it? What is the weight of each? You made the initial claim

xlt 4x4 - 4415, raptor 5325.... so....next please

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[some_guy]

Okee dokie!

A few minutes later…

So we have an actual human saying the curb weight of his RR is 5,325 lbs. This is supported by the DMV making him pay a weight penalty for the truck.

Then we have a different actual human going to a scale and discovering that his XL 2WD weighs 4,260 lbs (that’s subtracting 220 lbs for the driver, per his post).

Sooooo 5,325 lbs minus 4,260 lbs is 1,065 lbs.

And that’s why I “claimed” a Ranger Raptor weighs more than 1,000 lbs more than a 4x2 XL.

My own Ranger XL 4x4 lists 4,305 as the “shipped weight” on Ford’s own certificate of origin.

I also noted that I haven’t been able to find published curb weights, which is why I asked you for a source. I’m going off the best information I can find at the moment.


Your turn.

I thought we were talking about the RR vs the 2.7t 4x4, not the 2.3 2x4.

 

[Ron Quixote]

I thought we were talking about the RR vs the 2.7t 4x4, not the 2.3 2x4.

Let’s do a little math here.

For the sake of argument, let’s agree that a RR weighs 5,325 lbs.

And let’s assume that Ford is correct that my XL 4x4 weighs 4,305.

That would mean my truck weighs 1,020 lbs less than a Ranger Raptor.

You claimed that a 4x4 2.7 weighs fewer than 100 lbs less than an RR. But let’s keep it simple and say you think a 4x4 2.7 weighs 5,225 lbs.

If you are correct, then the 2.7L engine weighs 920 lbs more than a 2.3L engine.

Is that what you’re saying, because I‘m pretty sure that’s not true.

An any event, you’re running around demanding sources and I have provided them to the best of my ability. I’m not going to engage on this further unless you show your work.

 

[Kevindust]

I would figure Ford will go the other route if anything and put out a Tremor, not an ST or Lobo version. The 2.7 competes with the 3.0 nose and nose, due to the weight difference, so the 2.7 already is an option and screams. But I think fewer truck owners want a lowered hot rod than a true truck use and/or off road capable unit.

I would bet money that we'll see a Ranger Tremor before an ST or a Lobo. Personally, a Tremor makes very little sense to me in the US market because of how the Raptor was priced but I would never discourage Ford from producing a Tremor if it makes people happy. If Ford does produce an ST, it still needs to function as a truck with towing and hauling capability within 15% of a Lariat. It can be done, Dodge didn't lose towing capability when it built the Durango SRT models.

 

[superj]

i don't think we will get a lobo or st either, unfortunately. a tremor, yeah, because they already have 4x4 and fx4 so its not a whole lot to make the changes for that but to do an st or lobo requires tuning for something totally different.

 

[03GeeTee]

Surprised the Raptor is THAT much heavier! Pretty significant.

 

[superj]

Updated weight pic.

2024 stx 2wd with 2.3.
3/4 tank of gas
Rear sway bar and links/brackets
Tonneau cover
Full step rails
Xlt 18" wheels amd tires
2" ball and hitch in reciever and 1 7/8 ball and hitch under back seat
And still 220lb driver

 

[danmoochie]

Let’s do a little math here.

For the sake of argument, let’s agree that a RR weighs 5,325 lbs.

And let’s assume that Ford is correct that my XL 4x4 weighs 4,305.

That would mean my truck weighs 1,020 lbs less than a Ranger Raptor.

You claimed that a 4x4 2.7 weighs fewer than 100 lbs less than an RR. But let’s keep it simple and say you think a 4x4 2.7 weighs 5,225 lbs.

If you are correct, then the 2.7L engine weighs 980 lbs more than a 2.3L engine.

Is that what you’re saying, because I‘m pretty sure that’s not true.

An any event, you’re running around demanding sources and I have provided them to the best of my ability. I’m not going to engage on this further unless you show your work.

the weight difference is about 100lbs between the two motors, so bingo! LOL

 

[Ron Quixote]

the weight difference is about 100lbs between the two motors, so bingo! LOL

Yeah, he’s just trolling us. Dude has demanded all sorts of proof. When we provide it, he disappears.

He’s got nuffin.

Besides, who cares if the RR is a little chubby? It’s a totally badass truck, and it carries its weight well.

 

[danmoochie]

Yeah, he’s just trolling us. Dude has demanded all sorts of proof. When we provide it, he disappears.

He’s got nuffin.

yup, I mean I challenge some posts, but I at least try to justify it, not just hammer a point with no data or logic lol.

 

[some_guy]

Updated weight pic.

2024 stx 2wd with 2.3.
3/4 tank of gas
Rear sway bar and links/brackets
Tonneau cover
Full step rails
Xlt 18" wheels amd tires
2" ball and hitch in reciever and 1 7/8 ball and hitch under back seat
And still 220lb driver

" I thought we were talking about the RR vs the 2.7t 4x4, not the 2.3 2x4. "

 

[Ron Quixote]

" I thought we were talking about the RR vs the 2.7t 4x4, not the 2.3 2x4. "

Oh no he’s back.

Do not engage!

 

[kirkster89]

Oh no he’s back.

Do not engage!

I had to double check what site I was on while reading this thread. I almost thought I was on Reddit for a second.

 

[Dr. TJG DVM]

" I thought we were talking about the RR vs the 2.7t 4x4, not the 2.3 2x4. "

4x4 Lariat 2.7L certificate of origin:

Pretty much every source lists the Raptor at over 5300#. All that steel in the suspension, skid plates and a bigger motor kinda adds up. Just take the loss and practice harder for the next game. Or I guess you could claim you miss-typed and left off a zero before hitting “post”

 

[Dr. TJG DVM]

Well, no kidding Ford, one gets all the marketing attention, the other you hide under a rock.

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Back to the topic at hand:
Looked at the Mav out of curiosity- nice vehicle, can imagine it be great for a lot of people. Sat in a couple and had the sense of being in a small SUV (I think the Escape has more interior space, certainly in back seat). Bed was tiny, Ranger has 4’ between wheel wells. Didn’t think that it was unibody construction vs body on frame as has been pointed out. Nice vehicle but have to place it as truck adjacent.

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