Ravelco security on the new Ford Ranger?

[Cyder]

I secured a Ranger Raptor out of state and going to get it this Friday. I’m looking to get the Ravelco security feature to avoid the possibility of future headaches of a stolen truck. Has anyone gotten one installed on their Ranger or are in the process of getting one installed? Any input you can provide?

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[Full-size no more]

Bumping and watching this as I am picking up my RR tomorrow. Had my 2020 GMC 1500’AT4 stolen and will not go through that again!

 

[Full-size no more]

Just called them and they have installed them in Ranger Raptors. Gotta find a dealer in your state/city and schedule an appointment. Not cheap but better than the crap I am dealing with.

 

[Deleted member 9086]

I wouldn’t waste my money, save it for something you actually need. Ravelco Security can be overridden by no less than a potato. Cap missing, shovel a half a potato firmly over the exposed cap and voila’, overridden.

Ravelco keeps honest people honest, wont stop an experienced thief. They’ve been around for decades and offered by some dealerships, who need the add on monies.

Same as wheel locks, takes seconds to remove one with an impact.???

 

[wlarsen76]

I was considering Ravelo too. Then I saw these videos.

• Ravelco disabled in less than 1 minute without anything special. At the plug.
• Ravelo bypassed in under 1 minute

I'm still looking for something.
Things don't like about Igla are

1. I believe they splice into the wiring console to install it.
2. They won't tell the owner where they install it on their own vehicle.

 

[Cyder]

I was considering Ravelo too. Then I saw these videos.

• Ravelco disabled in less than 1 minute without anything special. At the plug.
• Ravelo bypassed in under 1 minute

I'm still looking for something.
Things don't like about Igla are

1. I believe they splice into the wiring console to install it.
2. They won't tell the owner where they install it on their own vehicle.

Considering that video only has 5.5K viewers, I doubt it’s very known. Ravelco hides their ports now unlike what you see in the video so it’s gonna take longer than 1 min.

 

[Deleted member 9086]

Additionally, you have to tap into the CANBUS system. I wouldn’t trust a dealership or an accessory installer to do so for any amount of money. You’re asking for electrical issues.???

 

[wlarsen76]

Additionally, you have to tap into the CANBUS system. I wouldn’t trust a dealership or an accessory installer to do so for any amount of money. You’re asking for electrical issues.???

Yes!!
I spent some time over on the Stellantis forums searching for a solution. I tried to make the same point you just did over there and it's like i peed in their cheerios. They started flipping out on me. Then I searched their forum some more. Those IGLA guys. They are truly zealots over there. Don't dare disagree with them.. Heh...

 

[Rufus]

The simple answer is to live where I do. Nobody will steal your car while parked. They will simply wait for you to be in it and car jack you - much easier and quicker for them.

Seriously though, I thought modern cars (Kia and Hyundai except) were electronically immobilized if the key wasn’t present. Or is that easy to defeat? I often park at an airport in the same county as Newark and I worry when I leave the truck there overnight. Should I get The Club???

 

[wlarsen76]

The simple answer is to live where I do. Nobody will steal your car while parked. They will simply wait for you to be in it and car jack you - much easier and quicker for them.

Seriously though, I thought modern cars (Kia and Hyundai except) were electronically immobilized if the key wasn’t present. Or is that easy to defeat? I often park at an airport in the same county as Newark and I worry when I leave the truck there overnight. Should I get The Club???

Just cut the steering wheel to get the Club off.

Yea, it is super easy to defeat. It is wild how modern cars still don't have built in quality security in today's world. What they do have is the equivalent to 90's / early 2000's network security.
Cars today have so much electronics in them that they are the equivalent to an home/office computer network. Except there is absolutely no encryption.

When you press a button on your keyfob, it broadcast an unencrypted signal to your car to "do something". Since that message is broadcasted and the unencrypted, it is easy to pickup and clone. So, when you walk away and lock your car, that signal is cloned. A bad actor can now unlock your car.
Then, they can plug a device into the OBD2 and clone a key. That new key automatically disables the factory immobilizer. It takes like 60 seconds from start to finish. It's worthless. It's worse than security theatre, and it's the bare minimum that auto manufacturers have to do to stay in compliance with current legislation. It would be nice if we could get our congressmen/women to adjust the law to include encryption.

Then also, there is the method of tapping into the car's network through wiring natively. The car's internal network (CAN / LIN Bus) is also an unencrypted network. So, all the bad actors have to do is get your headlight out and use the wires from it to tap into that network. Once they do that, they can use a device to send messages to "start the car", disable immobilizer, basically whatever they want because it's an open network. This is basically the equivalent to network security in the 80's.

Seriously, this is really very trivial stuff nowadays. Any other industry that acted like this (banking, medical devices/healthcare, retail...) would be crucified for the minimal effort manufacturers put in.

In lieu of manufacturers fixing the problem, the best approach is a 3rd party with an immobilizer that uses encrypted communication and/or disables the ODB2 port, etc.
It's just the 3rd parties that exist are also sort of shady -- Not telling me where it's installed on my own car and claiming keeping it a secret is a security practice.
Yea, right.. Security via obscurity is NOT good security. It just enables installers to be lazy and to not have their worked checked.

I'm a IT security practitioner with 25 years of experience.

 

[Deleted member 9086]

You can put on an ODB II port lock, which is about the only thing that will work successfully. You can also reposition the OBD II port elsewhere.

https://www.autocyb.com/???

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