Theft alarm systems

[Wizzard]

Hello i wasn’t sure if this is the right topic heading for this post but im wondering what is everyone’s go to Anti theft car alarm system? I’ve seen some that say cut off switch systems are the best what’s everyone recommendations?

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[Fix4Dirt]

My anti theft of choice is hiding a kill switch. Cant steal what ya cant start! Not sure how much it's progressed but the ATS or Viper systems I feel like dont do a whole lot IMO.

 

[Wizzard]

My anti theft of choice is hiding a kill switch. Cant steal what ya cant start! Not sure how much it's progressed but the ATS or Viper systems I feel like dont do a whole lot IMO.

is there a particular system that i could get installed that does this ? I’m not mechanical in electrical things like this

 

[OH3Cobra]

My Chrysler 300 SRT8 was stolen in Chicago in November. Not a trace. I'd suggest a "club" steering wheel lock - may make them move on and a hidden "speakerless" airtag hidden in the car.

 

[Satex]

Other than just towing, it's pretty hard to steal most modern cars these days. Isn't it?

 

[Mgrmax]

Other than just towing, it's pretty hard to steal most modern cars these days. Isn't it?

The “Kia Boys” would disagree?

 

[Satex]

The “Kia Boys” would disagree?

The was the "most" part. I think I'm correct.

 

[deeper]

Fast and easy way is to purchase OBD port blocker, hide the OBD port or mess with it's cables. Unless the thieves are having ECU they need the OBD port to take your car. You can also hide an air tag or samsung tag inside the car.

 

[Mgrmax]

Fast and easy way is to purchase OBD port blocker, hide the OBD port or mess with it's cables. Unless the thieves are having ECU they need the OBD port to take your car. You can also hide an air tag or samsung tag inside the car.

I have one of these installed and completely forgot about it lol. Great suggestion!

 

[Deleted member 9086]

Other than just towing, it's pretty hard to steal most modern cars these days. Isn't it?

Not really. Duplication of a key fob is easy with the right device. Can be done 50+ feet away with a key in your house. Only way to effectively stop it is to utilize a faraday bag.

It will keep the would be snatch and grabs away but not a determined car thief. They’re digital equipped now.??

 

[deeper]

That is not key fob duplication. They will retransmit you own key signal and can unlock and run the car until its stopped after 15 minutes or fuel finish, based on settings.

 

[LeeHo]

If you have a newer model Ranger including Raptor I highly recommend the Ford Pass or Ford Pass Connect app. It has a built in perimeter alarm system + other advanced options. If your car is hit while parked, attempted entry or broken into or towed away, the app notifies you via your cell phone as it is happening. It can globally track your truck as it is moving and you can disable the engine. No matter where you or your truck are located, the system will notify you. I believe there is also a crash sensing/911 notification on the "Connect" version.

Just my 2c

 

[Fix4Dirt]

is there a particular system that i could get installed that does this ? I’m not mechanical in electrical things like this

Hmm I'm not sure. I imagine any decent mechanic should be able to install one. Essentially all it is is it disables some circuit (usually fuel pump or the like) so that the vehicle can't be started and driven. Then the only way is to tow it. The switch on my Explorer disables the PCM entirely, so nothing can be done with it.

Then theres stuff like the club lock, which works decently IMO. And as many others have mentioned hiding an AirTag or some form of a tracker in.

 

[Fix4Dirt]

Other than just towing, it's pretty hard to steal most modern cars these days. Isn't it?

I come from the thinking that the keyed PATS trucks are the hardest to steal. The fobbed ones the signal can be duplicated relatively easily so the push button ones IMO are easier than the chipped keys, where you not only need the replica of the key, but also the correct frequency programmed. I havent figured out how to defeat PATS on my Explorer yet without swapping the entire archetecture from another one over (at least when I was looking into V8 swaps)

But whats easiest is all relative! I'm not super techy for my age, so I may have a harder time than a CompSci major at frequency duplication, but my understanding of wiring in cars could make other elements easie

 

[Deleted member 9086]

That is not key fob duplication. They will retransmit you own key signal and can unlock and run the car until its stopped after 15 minutes or fuel finish, based on settings.

What you’re commenting of, is signal boosting. There is also key Fob cloning by the OBD II or via signal stealing and duplication.

Sorry but yes it is. Plenty of information readily available.

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/thefts-from-key-fob-cloning-spiking-protect-yourself/

https://www.carlock.co/blog/en/2019/08/23/cloned-key-attack/

https://www.autoinsurance.com/guide/how-to-keep-car-key-fob-from-being-hacked/

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/v...logy/275-57e860c5-5d27-4b3a-974f-3d619516376d

Here’s a few of the many websites and descriptions.

They can also do it by signal boosting, along with a myriad of other hacks which take between 20-30 seconds.

• Relay attacks: Using a wireless transmitter and relay booster to capture and relay the signal from your key fob, overriding your car's computer.
• Reprogramming: Another option for thieves is to plug a device into the onboard diagnostic port (ODB) or data port, reprogram the keyfob, and start the car.
• CAN (Controller Area Network): Usually found near the front bumper, thieves will disrupt the signals or damage the cables, leading to the thief's access to override signals and start the vehicle.

If they want it bad enough, they will get it and there’s nothing you can do short of using a hidden battery disconnect and a faraday bag to stop them.??

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