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I have posted on another thread about this project and I wanted to give everyone an update on it.

A little background: I preface this post by stating that I am not an audiophile. I listen to podcasts 50% of the time, and music 50% of the time. When I was teenager, my best friend had an F150 that he installed a JL audio sub in the center console and I remember just riding in it bumping Kotton Mouth Kings and I felt so cool, and this is basically why I wanted to do this project, as I always wanted a truck with a sub.

Equipment:
JL Audio TW1-10 Stealth Box: $1099
AudioControl 1.300 ACM amplifier 300 watts @ 2 ohms: $225
Sound Good Stereo pre-tuned Kicker LOC: $255
Professional Install: $500

I have been driving my Raptor for about 4 months prior to this build so I have a fairly good baseline of what the stock stereo is. To me, the speakers always sounded fine and plenty loud. However, it is very apparent that the bass was what is severely lacking. After doing plenty of research and with the help of this forum, I decided on the above equipment which is basically what you need to upgrade the sub with, in my opinion, quality equipment. Well today was install day, and I just drove back 45 mins from the installer, and listened to a mix of Blink 182, Tool, and Eminem, and I will say this set-up is 100% worth it and sounds absolutely amazing. This is exactly what I was looking for, keeping the stock speakers while upgrading the bass, and this did exactly that! This is what the sound system should have sounded like out of the factory.

The sub is obviously the most cost prohibitive part. You can certainly go cheaper, but I grew up with JL Audio, and the off the shelf stealth box was worth it for me. There's also a plethora of amplifier options to power this sub but I landed on the Audio Control 1.300 mainly because it was a good price point, and the very very small form factor really adds to the stealth factor. The KEY component (no pun intended) was the Sound Good Stereo Kicker Key LOC. This device is what makes this build possible. It basically integrates and aftermarket sub/amp to the stock stereo. When first talking to my installer about this project, he was very skeptical. He was used to buying a DSP or a default LOC and having to spend a few hours tuning it himself and splicing into wires. This device is pre-tuned and direct plug in play. There was an issue we had with connection to the stock amp, but a simple 3-way call to SGS had it all cleared up (basically you just need to remove the connectors that came with the unit, and they will plug right into stock amp). He was so amazed by how easy and great this product was, as someone basically does the pain in the ass work for you, that he called them to find out how to purchase wholesale from them.

If you are willing to spend around 2 grand, I feel like this set-up is well worth it to really enhance the stock system. The bass sounds great, and its not too overpowering or annoying. It has that extra bump/kick that the stock sub could not even come close to. Feel free to reply to this thread or DM me if you have any questions.

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Thank you for the write up! This is incredible. I have everything on the way to do the same, however I have not ordered the LOC as I planned on using the speaker level inputs on the AudioControl 1.300 and the factory sub wires.

I assume this is possible but doesn’t “fix” the stock B/O bass rolloff? Curious your thoughts. I also believe we have the round sub, but I’d have to double check.

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Thank you for the write up! This is incredible. I have everything on the way to do the same, however I have not ordered the LOC as I planned on using the speaker level inputs on the AudioControl 1.300 and the factory sub wires.

I assume this is possible but doesn’t “fix” the stock B/O bass rolloff? Curious your thoughts. I also believe we have the round sub, but I’d have to double check.

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Thanks again!
Yes we have the round sub not the oval. I highly suggest getting the kicker LOC from SGS. I think it will save you the headache of having to tune yourself. I am not an audio guy so if you have abilities, by all means DIY all you can to save money.
 

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Yes we have the round sub not the oval. I highly suggest getting the kicker LOC from SGS. I think it will save you the headache of having to tune yourself. I am not an audio guy so if you have abilities, by all means DIY all you can to save money.
Nah, you’re right. Plug and play is the way to go. I enjoy audio but same as you, I don’t know enough to tune myself. I’ll order the one you did. Thanks, appreciate it!
 

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Where did you mount the amp?
 

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That Sound Good Stereo Kicker LOC sounds like a game-changer. I've always been hesitant to upgrade because of the tuning hassle. Might have to look into this setup now. Thanks for sharing your experience!
 
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That Sound Good Stereo Kicker LOC sounds like a game-changer. I've always been hesitant to upgrade because of the tuning hassle. Might have to look into this setup now. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Yeah it really is a great product. The unit itself comes with no instructions, so if you DIY, it could take a few to figure out. With that said, SGS picked up their phone late in the afternoon and was very knowledgeable about their product and easily walked my installer on what to do.
 

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I have posted on another thread about this project and I wanted to give everyone an update on it.

A little background: I preface this post by stating that I am not an audiophile. I listen to podcasts 50% of the time, and music 50% of the time. When I was teenager, my best friend had an F150 that he installed a JL audio sub in the center console and I remember just riding in it bumping Kotton Mouth Kings and I felt so cool, and this is basically why I wanted to do this project, as I always wanted a truck with a sub.

Equipment:
JL Audio TW1-10 Stealth Box: $1099
AudioControl 1.300 ACM amplifier 300 watts @ 2 ohms: $225
Sound Good Stereo pre-tuned Kicker LOC: $255
Professional Install: $500

I have been driving my Raptor for about 4 months prior to this build so I have a fairly good baseline of what the stock stereo is. To me, the speakers always sounded fine and plenty loud. However, it is very apparent that the bass was what is severely lacking. After doing plenty of research and with the help of this forum, I decided on the above equipment which is basically what you need to upgrade the sub with, in my opinion, quality equipment. Well today was install day, and I just drove back 45 mins from the installer, and listened to a mix of Blink 182, Tool, and Eminem, and I will say this set-up is 100% worth it and sounds absolutely amazing. This is exactly what I was looking for, keeping the stock speakers while upgrading the bass, and this did exactly that! This is what the sound system should have sounded like out of the factory.

The sub is obviously the most cost prohibitive part. You can certainly go cheaper, but I grew up with JL Audio, and the off the shelf stealth box was worth it for me. There's also a plethora of amplifier options to power this sub but I landed on the Audio Control 1.300 mainly because it was a good price point, and the very very small form factor really adds to the stealth factor. The KEY component (no pun intended) was the Sound Good Stereo Kicker Key LOC. This device is what makes this build possible. It basically integrates and aftermarket sub/amp to the stock stereo. When first talking to my installer about this project, he was very skeptical. He was used to buying a DSP or a default LOC and having to spend a few hours tuning it himself and splicing into wires. This device is pre-tuned and direct plug in play. There was an issue we had with connection to the stock amp, but a simple 3-way call to SGS had it all cleared up (basically you just need to remove the connectors that came with the unit, and they will plug right into stock amp). He was so amazed by how easy and great this product was, as someone basically does the pain in the ass work for you, that he called them to find out how to purchase wholesale from them.

If you are willing to spend around 2 grand, I feel like this set-up is well worth it to really enhance the stock system. The bass sounds great, and its not too overpowering or annoying. It has that extra bump/kick that the stock sub could not even come close to. Feel free to reply to this thread or DM me if you have any questions.

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Received everything and installed today. Can I ask, on the Keyloc, which lights are lit up? I see the green which is power, but which other one is selected?

Also, did you have visibility to the amp settings? The top comes off with 4 little screws and there’s a bunch of controls on there. Thanks!
 
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Received everything and installed today. Can I ask, on the Keyloc, which lights are lit up? I see the green which is power, but which other one is selected?

Also, did you have visibility to the amp settings? The top comes off with 4 little screws and there’s a bunch of controls on there. Thanks!
I put back my kids car seat so its kind of a pain to take out and look. For the amp, I know the my installer said the amp is rated at 2 ohms which I thought that was what the sub was, but I guess he said the sub actually measured out to 4 ohms. So I guess my sub is actually getting only 175 watts of power, but its still plenty loud for what I am using it for.

The amp isn't too accessible without taking out the seats. Sorry, hope this helps.
 

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I put back my kids car seat so its kind of a pain to take out and look. For the amp, I know the my installer said the amp is rated at 2 ohms which I thought that was what the sub was, but I guess he said the sub actually measured out to 4 ohms. So I guess my sub is actually getting only 175 watts of power, but its still plenty loud for what I am using it for.

The amp isn't too accessible without taking out the seats. Sorry, hope this helps.
No prob! From what I can tell this thing is definitely loud. I thought the sub was 2ohm as well. Either way, it’s awesome! Thanks again.
 

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Mind doing me a solid and playing Laura Brannigan's Self Control on your system? I played the official video (rhino) on YouTube last night on my way home and the SPL from the bass line hurt, like it's the same hertz as the speakers natural resonate frequency. I wonder if your sub changed that and now it's more balanced or will still make your head explode if played above 15.
 

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I'm looking to do something similar but I'm afraid this is going to open open a big can of worms and require lots of other mods. With the stock speakers I have massive vibrations with the stock bass radiating from the door panels, arm rest etc. Did you add any sound deadening material on this install? Panels are one thing but man the door cards vibrate like crazy with stock speakers!

If you could also share links of what you purchased, I would really appreciate it. There are a few variants of some of the items. Thanks and no rush on the reply!
 
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I'm looking to do something similar but I'm afraid this is going to open open a big can of worms and require lots of other mods. With the stock speakers I have massive vibrations with the stock base radiating from the door panels, arm rest etc. Did you add any sound deadening material on this install? Panels are one thing but man the door cards vibrate like crazy with stock speakers!

If you could also share links of what you purchased, I would really appreciate it. There are a few variants of some of the items. Thanks and no rush on the reply!
Hmm the rattling or vibration isn't bad with the stock setup. If anything I thought the bass was too weak, which is why I opted for the sub upgrade. With the sub in, you do need to make some adjustments based on what type of music you are listening to. If I am listening to rap, I have the bass turned down quite a bit, or else its a bit much. If I am listening to rock, like tool or SOAD I have the bass up 3 bars. If its like classical music, it needs to be up quite a bit. However, I mainly just have the bass setting at a 0 and its a pretty good medium for all music type.

JL audio stealthbox:
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_13694684/JL-Audio-Stealthbox.html

Kicker LOC:
https://soundsgoodstereo.com/produc...-o-including-unleashed-read-description-below

AMP AudioControl ACM 1.300
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_161ACM1300/AudioControl-ACM-1-300.html
 

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Hmm the rattling or vibration isn't bad with the stock setup. If anything I thought the bass was too weak, which is why I opted for the sub upgrade. With the sub in, you do need to make some adjustments based on what type of music you are listening to. If I am listening to rap, I have the bass turned down quite a bit, or else its a bit much. If I am listening to rock, like tool or SOAD I have the bass up 3 bars. If its like classical music, it needs to be up quite a bit. However, I mainly just have the bass setting at a 0 and its a pretty good medium for all music type.

JL audio stealthbox:
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_13694684/JL-Audio-Stealthbox.html

Kicker LOC:
https://soundsgoodstereo.com/produc...-o-including-unleashed-read-description-below

AMP AudioControl ACM 1.300
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_161ACM1300/AudioControl-ACM-1-300.html
Thanks so much, I will let you know if I have any questions once I check this out.
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