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If your 2024 or 2025 Ranger or Ranger Raptor has ever shifted drive modes by itself, post here.

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Does everyone typically drive in 4A or 2H? I haven’t experienced this, just trying to find commonality.
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As some one who designed and built a CAN bus vehicle system, albeit on a less complex scale.

you need a common ground system for CAN bus to work, but if there are errors in the CAN bus data transmission, you know right away.

Cars have multiple CAN busses these days and LIN to take care of things like door locks.

IF you have the right tools (can bus monitor) you can easily track down a fault to a module as you can see the offending data message.

the fact an error code is not popping up is a real problem as those are logged and Ford can track those remotely.

intermittent faults are extremely difficult to cure as it could take days or months to see the fault.

if we can find someone who has this fault all the time, it could probably be isolated relatively quickly

I’ve tracked down things like this and it took me 6 months once before some brought me a module that failed every time and I solved the issue in 15 minutes
The CAN bus system has been around since the 80's and has come a long way in solving each module having to be individually wired into the system back to the main processing unit . Today's systems are generally very fault tolerate and it's like you say special equipment is needed, as well as someone that knows how to use it. The CAN bus many times has it's own "ground" which is not chassis ground as a point of reference for the systems variables on multiple CAN bus lines. The variables of each system is programmed in and maybe just maybe it could be simple variables being "to sensitive" in what is set. Before specialized equipment an oscilloscope was your friend in seeing vaults and many CAN system tools has it's roots in the oscilloscope. If the problem exist in the ground system, faults if even getting stored can and will mislead as that is the plane of reference, not the data carrier signal for a code and they are still traveling along. In some of my scenarios dealers and shops gave up and it was just flat time and back to old school basics of individual wire references and a very sensitive scope, meters and full vehicle wiring diagrams. One I will never forget is a 2018 F150 steering rack problem. Three replacement units later I got the truck through word of mouth and two days later found the problem and it was the ground for the cable to the CAN system wiring. Codes were not present for anything to do with steering unit, even though it appeared (Physically)as it was failing each time (no check light on ) codes were stored for temporary hill decent, traction control and get this, brake booster sensor. It's the old school way that sometimes saves your backside (been there many times over computer controls)but few are still around that understand it much less the new electronic world they've created and how all things old and new work together for vehicles. I even spent days looking for odd codes in a truck being randomly thrown and it had nothing to do with any of the electronic system. Old school vacuum monitoring lead me to a strange vacuum scenario and it was a one way vacuum valve intermittently leaking and throwing the whole electronic monitoring system off! Bad chassis (may of them today)grounds can create stray EMF signals and with today's smaller wiring if not shielded properly or in to close of proximity can disrupt the system of CAN bus.
This will turn out interesting. We will all learn something for sure. My gut tells me it's something simple rearing it's ugly head, we'll see. Just not simple to narrow down!
 
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Happened twice. Once on the highway (scary!) and once while stopped.
 

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Just got mine back. Of course they could not duplicate. Used lots of gas. by fords direction tested lots of stuff and updated other modules. I got it on the report if you want to know. So really they do not know whats happening. But they are trying. Makes me want to think extended warrenty. All this cost nothing except for the gas. Also they said if it does it again to return it Fords using us as ginnie pigs. Make sure you take yours in to document it. My spelling justs sucks today
 

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Mine just changed modes while driving about 45 mph. made alot of drivetrain noise. Very dangerous. Ill be contacting ford asap.
 

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2024 bone stock. happened to me twice. the first instance lasted 5 seconds the second time it lasted 5 minutes and tortured me non stop for a mile. I pulled over shut the truck off waited 5 mins restarted and drove off like nothing happened. since then that and the magically disabling of my raptor mode button has not happened.
 

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Can anyone describe what happens when it switches modes?
Do the rpm’s change?
Does it ever successfully change modes or is it just trying to and since you are not stopped and in neutral it can’t change modes?
Trying to understand the potential damage to the trans or transfer case that this could cause.
It seems most reports are of it trying to shift into 4low or Baja?
 

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Can anyone describe what happens when it switches modes?
Do the rpm’s change?
Does it ever successfully change modes or is it just trying to and since you are not stopped and in neutral it can’t change modes?
Trying to understand the potential damage to the trans or transfer case that this could cause.
It seems most reports are of it trying to shift into 4low or Baja?
I was parked and then put my truck into drive. Merged out into street, then got up to about 20mph and my truck shifted on its own into Baja mode and 4H. I looked down and then hit my R button to go into my preferred settings and it didn’t work then moved the dial back normal mode and it went into 2H. I stopped, turned off the truck, opened door twice, then started truck and was in normal mode and my R button worked. So far it’s happened twice and no error codes in Ford App. Dealer also didn’t find any error codes when scanning it. Told me it’s a computer programming glitch and won’t get fixed until Ford does an update.
 

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Does anyone know if shift on the fly into Baja and 4H is possible?
I’m wondering if it would cause any problems?
Obviously the other scenario people have been describing about shifting into 4L, isn’t supposed to be possible without coming to a stop.
 

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1. Only mods are a 32 inch light bar and amber DRLs
2. No Forscan mods
3. No tune.

Has happened twice the past month. The first time I tried to go into R mode and got “my mode not available” message. I was stopped at the time so I restarted the truck to see if it would come back. It did switched to R mode and continued driving. As I turned onto a side street it started switching modes and tried to go into rock crawl. Switched back to normal with the dial.

Second time was backing out of a drive way. Again wanted to go into rock crawl. Was able to get it back to normal with the dial.

The only commonality I can see between the two incidents are my wheels had been turned to the right just before it’s started. Doubt it’s related but who knows.
 

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A few isolated threads exist, but I think it's important to bring this information together.

That being the case, if your Ranger Raptor (or Ranger) has ever shifted drive modes and/or transfer case configurations by itself, please post here.

Include:

1:
Any modifications
2: Any Forscan alterations
3: Tune status, if any
4: Any further pertinent information of which you are aware; such as the drive mode you were in, if you were on the highway, in a parking lot, under braking, etc ...

My personal answers:

1:
No modifications
2: No Forscan alterations
3: No tune
4: The issue has happened at 50mph, 45mph, in a parking lot while parked, and when pulling into my driveway. So far as the knob goes, I put the vehicle into sport a single time, didn't like it, and put it back into normal. The only other time I've touched it has been to get it back out of Baja mode. I do occasionally access sport suspension mode via the steering wheel, but that is the extent of my interaction with the system.

What's happened to me:

A:
It shifted into Baja mode at 45mph under no special conditions.
B: Baja mode was again selected on my way back home, just before pulling into my driveway. At that point, it locked me into 4WD high and disabled traction control entirely.
C: I was idling in a parking lot, and looked up to find it had shifted itself into rock crawl mode.
D: At around 50mph, it shifted modes, and then attempted to shift into low range. Eventually it quit trying.

Ford doesn't seem to think this is an issue. It's about time a singular resource existed to fill with data. I know it's happening on many vehicles. I strongly advise you to bring your Ranger to a dealership but, if you're not going to do that, please post your experience here. This is a critical vehicle system, and dealerships can't fix it.

The only solution is a recall or a massive update, which is NOT going to happen without more input.
 

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1. No modifications
2. No Forscan alterations
3. No tune

Its happened 2 time. Ones at 25 mph, I switched it right back next was over 55 mph but i didn’t notice and problems. But on very warm days. Over 90 degrees.
 

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Its happened 2 time. Ones at 25 mph, I switched it right back next was over 55 mph but i didn’t notice and problems. But on very warm days. Over 90 degrees.
You are the first non-Raptor owner to report in this thread, unless @kyarnelli in post #36 does not have a RR, (his sig doesn't say). As far as I can tell the common thread was Raptors till today.
 
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