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The 2024 were just ramping up around then from the strike so that's why numbers are low for 2024. I know I ordered mine is June 23 and didn't get it until Apr 24.
 

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So they are selling all they can produce, dealer stock is pretty much a net zero.
Well, not exactly. There are plenty on lots a quick search through autotrader shows that. Ford is trying to avoid a surplus of stock on the Ranger because they move slower then F150s, Mavs, Broncos. Raptors are not being made to meet demand on purpose, Ford does this with all their Raptors. They want them to feel special so they have artificial limits on them.
 

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Are there any numbers out there for Ranger Raptors (North America). I have a 2024 and was wondering how many other 2024’s are actually out there? I’ve only seen one other in my area.
 

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Well, not exactly. There are plenty on lots a quick search through autotrader shows that. Ford is trying to avoid a surplus of stock on the Ranger because they move slower then F150s, Mavs, Broncos. Raptors are not being made to meet demand on purpose, Ford does this with all their Raptors. They want them to feel special so they have artificial limits on them.
My point was they essentially sold as many Ranger as they built...or...they built as many as they sold. In other words, available inventory on the lots is even...a net zero change, no inventory build up of Rangers.

If Ford wanted to sell more Rangers they should put just a little bit more marketing effort behind them, which would be more than they are doing now, which is none at all.
 

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Are there any numbers out there for Ranger Raptors (North America). I have a 2024 and was wondering how many other 2024’s are actually out there? I’ve only seen one other in my area.
They do not produce the exact numbers of models. I believe last year though adding up some of the math across various documents for production it was something like 14k raptors.
 

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My point was they essentially sold as many Ranger as they built...or...they built as many as they sold. In other words, available inventory on the lots is even...a net zero change, no inventory build up of Rangers.

If Ford wanted to sell more Rangers they should put just a little bit more marketing effort behind them, which would be more than they are doing now, which is none at all.
My point was, I dont think they are trying sell more of them at the moment and are happy with the current sales numbers as is. The Bronco sells better and I assume they have higher profit margins on them as well, so the money goes to the Mav, F150, and Broncos.
 

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My point was, I dont think they are trying sell more of them at the moment and are happy with the current sales numbers as is. The Bronco sells better and I assume they have higher profit margins on them as well, so the money goes to the Mav, F150, and Broncos.
You're probably right. I do think, however, Ford is missing an opportunity to grab significant market share from Toyota and GM; between the two a bit less than 95,000 Tacomas, Colorados and Canyons in Q1 25 as compare to just under 15,000 Rangers. Ford could pick up sales volume at the expense of Toyota and GM with just a little marketing effort here.

Granted this is a biased audience, but I think we can all say without reservation Ranger is a superior product compared to what Toyota and GM have on the market.
 

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Happy one new owner out of 7006! I purchased mine in late April. In Colorado, there were many more leftover 2024 models and very few 2025. The latter seem to go pretty quick, especially the 2.7L.
 

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You're probably right. I do think, however, Ford is missing an opportunity to grab significant market share from Toyota and GM; between the two a bit less than 95,000 Tacomas, Colorados and Canyons in Q1 25 as compare to just under 15,000 Rangers. Ford could pick up sales volume at the expense of Toyota and GM with just a little marketing effort here.

Granted this is a biased audience, but I think we can all say without reservation Ranger is a superior product compared to what Toyota and GM have on the market.
Yeah, but brand loyalty exists. Personally, I normally have hated most american made vehicles. I have always been a JDM sports car guy / JDM vehicle enthusiast. Hell I thought trucks were pretty dumb to own for a long time (not work trucks but brodozzers and such). The Raptor brand has always but the 1 thing I said I would buy if it was reasonable and if I was looking at a truck. When I was shopping for my raptor i was also looking at the Civic Type R.

People stick with what they know for the most part. Ford knows pulling people away from Toyota is not exactly the play, its more so finding the untapped market, winning over people like myself.
 

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Yeah, but brand loyalty exists. Personally, I normally have hated most american made vehicles. I have always been a JDM sports car guy / JDM vehicle enthusiast. Hell I thought trucks were pretty dumb to own for a long time (not work trucks but brodozzers and such). The Raptor brand has always but the 1 thing I said I would buy if it was reasonable and if I was looking at a truck. When I was shopping for my raptor i was also looking at the Civic Type R.

People stick with what they know for the most part. Ford knows pulling people away from Toyota is not exactly the play, its more so finding the untapped market, winning over people like myself.
I get it, I jumped from a Fiesta ST to a Ranger Lariat.
 

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Yeah, but brand loyalty exists. Personally, I normally have hated most american made vehicles. I have always been a JDM sports car guy / JDM vehicle enthusiast. Hell I thought trucks were pretty dumb to own for a long time (not work trucks but brodozzers and such). The Raptor brand has always but the 1 thing I said I would buy if it was reasonable and if I was looking at a truck. When I was shopping for my raptor i was also looking at the Civic Type R.

People stick with what they know for the most part. Ford knows pulling people away from Toyota is not exactly the play, its more so finding the untapped market, winning over people like myself.
First, let me say I agree with you. But I've also often wondered if "it's ok" to be brand dis-loyal. In other words, being a *consumer*. While I have some measure of loyalty to Ford, I'm also an equal opportunity buyer. Until purchasing my Ranger a couple days ago and getting rid of my Q7, I had a Japanese vehicle in the driveway (2017.5 Mazda 6), a German vehicle in the driveway (the 2010 Audi Q7), and an American vehicle (2009 Mustang GT).

If I include vehicles provided on my behalf (my father working a trade with my older brother so I had a vehicle to drive to my job when I was 16)... and if I include spouse vehicles that I had a hand in selecting and maintaining, my vehicles have been:

1983 Ford Ranger
1987 Ford Tempo
1989 Cadillac Eldorado
2000 Chevy S10 LS
1997 Honda Civic LX
2005 Jeep Liberty Limited
2008 Mazda 3 Grand Touring
2002 Toyota Corolla LE
2011 Honda Pilot EX
2010 Audi Q7
2009 Ford Mustang GT
2017.5 Mazda 6
2025 Ford Ranger XLT

On the related topic of market-share, while I have driven full-sized trucks many times, I have never personally owned one. I'll say I almost went down that road this time, looking at both the F-150 and the Tundra, but given the current size of the Ranger, I am more than satisfied with its capabilities given my realistic needs. I paid less to purchase it, it'll cost less in insurance, it'll cost less to operate, it'll depreciate less, and it's easier to use as a daily and easier to wash and wax.

The trouble spot I see for Ford with regards to marketing is probably more about cannibalizing prospective F-150 owners than targeting Taco-bros. It's just an "American thing" to want to go big, and I'm guessing Ford's margins are better on the F-150 than the Ranger.

It will be interesting to see what the announced $2,000 increases in the Maverick pricing do to push people from the Maverick up to the Ranger.
 

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First, let me say I agree with you. But I've also often wondered if "it's ok" to be brand dis-loyal. In other words, being a *consumer*. While I have some measure of loyalty to Ford, I'm also an equal opportunity buyer. Until purchasing my Ranger a couple days ago and getting rid of my Q7, I had a Japanese vehicle in the driveway (2017.5 Mazda 6), a German vehicle in the driveway (the 2010 Audi Q7), and an American vehicle (2009 Mustang GT).

If I include vehicles provided on my behalf (my father working a trade with my older brother so I had a vehicle to drive to my job when I was 16)... and if I include spouse vehicles that I had a hand in selecting and maintaining, my vehicles have been:

1983 Ford Ranger
1987 Ford Tempo
1989 Cadillac Eldorado
2000 Chevy S10 LS
1997 Honda Civic LX
2005 Jeep Liberty Limited
2008 Mazda 3 Grand Touring
2002 Toyota Corolla LE
2011 Honda Pilot EX
2010 Audi Q7
2009 Ford Mustang GT
2017.5 Mazda 6
2025 Ford Ranger XLT

On the related topic of market-share, while I have driven full-sized trucks many times, I have never personally owned one. I'll say I almost went down that road this time, looking at both the F-150 and the Tundra, but given the current size of the Ranger, I am more than satisfied with its capabilities given my realistic needs. I paid less to purchase it, it'll cost less in insurance, it'll cost less to operate, it'll depreciate less, and it's easier to use as a daily and easier to wash and wax.

The trouble spot I see for Ford with regards to marketing is probably more about cannibalizing prospective F-150 owners than targeting Taco-bros. It's just an "American thing" to want to go big, and I'm guessing Ford's margins are better on the F-150 than the Ranger.

It will be interesting to see what the announced $2,000 increases in the Maverick pricing do to push people from the Maverick up to the Ranger.
I mean staying with a brand only hurts the consumer in the long term, in my opinion, because it makes the brand lazy. Look at the iphone, pokemon, nvidia. Those companys have become stagnant in the products they make because they have no real competition because people are loyal.

I think the in the short term the Mav price is going to slow them down, but as used car prices increase again, itll push people back to new inventory and itll catch up. I would bet margins on a F-150 at this point are gargantuan.
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