BOSS Ranger Raptor Airbag Suspension - works on USA trucks?

[Ag3ntC00p3r]

Awesome... let me know how the install goes... looks pretty straight forward, just gotta think thru the line placement. I didnt buy any of the additional kits. i plan to just use a small dewalt compressor that uses my 20 volt batteries to pump up the airbags as required, and if i need to pull out my bigger tire inflator compressor i always have that as well, just need to hook it up to the battery of the truck. Did you get the in cab kit and a compressor or just the bags? They seem pretty simple in concept and i plan to run the Shrader valve up by the in bed power outlets so i dont have to get under the truck to air up and air down the bags. Cheers and looking forward to hearing how your install goes and where you run the lines to ensure full flex capability with no pulling or kinks.

Got just the bags. I'm going to run the air lines up to the power panel in the bed as well. My plan is to use my Thor's Lightning compressor when I need to make changes. I already have it on hand when I want to air up/down anyways.

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[KayaPayaPigDog]

Got just the bags. I'm going to run the air lines up to the power panel in the bed as well. My plan is to use my Thor's Lightning compressor when I need to make changes. I already have it on hand when I want to air up/down anyways.

great minds think alike. the other parts of the kit do look pretty nice but for the price i dont mind hooking up my own pressure gauge and using my existing compressor just like you! Cheers.

 

[ozraptor]

Awesome... let me know how the install goes... looks pretty straight forward, just gotta think thru the line placement. I didnt buy any of the additional kits. i plan to just use a small dewalt compressor that uses my 20 volt batteries to pump up the airbags as required, and if i need to pull out my bigger tire inflator compressor i always have that as well, just need to hook it up to the battery of the truck. Did you get the in cab kit and a compressor or just the bags? They seem pretty simple in concept and i plan to run the Shrader valve up by the in bed power outlets so i dont have to get under the truck to air up and air down the bags. Cheers and looking forward to hearing how your install goes and where you run the lines to ensure full flex capability with no pulling or kinks.

Fyi, the air valve for the bags is on the top mount, which is mounted to the chassis. So the air lines don't move with the suspension / bags as they flex.

Regarding compressors for airing them up, they don't take much. I use a little rechargeable Bosch inflator for small cars I bought off Amazon for cheap and it works great. A super compact handheld with a quick connect adapter makes it super easy to inflate as needed and packs away easier. Your 20v Dewalt will work great (I've tried my 18v Milwaukee compressor as well).

If anyone reads this and is thinking about using a high volume 4x4 compressor, I wouldn't recommend it. The airbags don't take much volume or PSI and aren't really designed for that (might be okay, I haven't tried it with my Morrflate). I'm using the 3 bag BOSS airbags and near the Raptor's load limit it takes < 40 PSI to level the rear out. And with these Raptors, you don't want the rear riding higher than your calibrated "0" point or it confuses the computer for the Fox live valve system (makes it bouncy).

 

[KayaPayaPigDog]

Fyi, the air valve for the bags is on the top mount, which is mounted to the chassis. So the air lines don't move with the suspension / bags as they flex.

Regarding compressors for airing them up, they don't take much. I use a little rechargeable Bosch inflator for small cars I bought off Amazon for cheap and it works great. A super compact handheld with a quick connect adapter makes it super easy to inflate as needed and packs away easier. Your 20v Dewalt will work great (I've tried my 18v Milwaukee compressor as well).

If anyone reads this and is thinking about using a high volume 4x4 compressor, I wouldn't recommend it. The airbags don't take much volume or PSI and aren't really designed for that (might be okay, I haven't tried it with my Morrflate). I'm using the 3 bag BOSS airbags and near the Raptor's load limit it takes < 40 PSI to level the rear out. And with these Raptors, you don't want the rear riding higher than your calibrated "0" point or it confuses the computer for the Fox live valve system (makes it bouncy).

Great info, thank you so much, that makes way more sense about the lines being up on the frame and not the axle and I think my little battery freaky tire inflator will be perfect for this! I was wondering about what would happen if you have it go too high and I figured it would throw off the ride height sensors for sure. Much appreciated for taking the time to reply mate! Cheers

 

[Ag3ntC00p3r]

Fyi, the air valve for the bags is on the top mount, which is mounted to the chassis. So the air lines don't move with the suspension / bags as they flex.

Regarding compressors for airing them up, they don't take much. I use a little rechargeable Bosch inflator for small cars I bought off Amazon for cheap and it works great. A super compact handheld with a quick connect adapter makes it super easy to inflate as needed and packs away easier. Your 20v Dewalt will work great (I've tried my 18v Milwaukee compressor as well).

If anyone reads this and is thinking about using a high volume 4x4 compressor, I wouldn't recommend it. The airbags don't take much volume or PSI and aren't really designed for that (might be okay, I haven't tried it with my Morrflate). I'm using the 3 bag BOSS airbags and near the Raptor's load limit it takes < 40 PSI to level the rear out. And with these Raptors, you don't want the rear riding higher than your calibrated "0" point or it confuses the computer for the Fox live valve system (makes it bouncy).

Thanks for the inflator feedback. I also travel with my Milwaukee M12 inflator so I'll give that a shot first.

 

[Hofstetm]

Great info, thank you so much, that makes way more sense about the lines being up on the frame and not the axle and I think my little battery freaky tire inflator will be perfect for this! I was wondering about what would happen if you have it go too high and I figured it would throw off the ride height sensors for sure. Much appreciated for taking the time to reply mate! Cheers

Hey there! I just watched your Youtube video about the brake lines/brackets. I have the AAA airbag kit and have been running it for a few months now as I tow a 22' RV with my RR. Instead of manually inflating each bag though, I use the kit from Air Lift (WirelessOne) and adapted it to work. Suppose I can write an entire post about my setup as it's been pretty flawless.

Anyway, maybe your brake line brackets were different, but mine from AAA were marked "Driver Side" and "Passenger Side" when I received them, and during install I simply reversed them. Meaning, I used the AUS driver side bracket on the US passenger, and the AUS passenger on the US driver and everything went smooth. Maybe this is something you've already tried, but my brake lines are no where near anything of worry like you mentioned in your video.

Hope this helps!

 

[KayaPayaPigDog]

Hey there! I just watched your Youtube video about the brake lines/brackets. I have the AAA airbag kit and have been running it for a few months now as I tow a 22' RV with my RR. Instead of manually inflating each bag though, I use the kit from Air Lift (WirelessOne) and adapted it to work. Suppose I can write an entire post about my setup as it's been pretty flawless.

Anyway, maybe your brake line brackets were different, but mine from AAA were marked "Driver Side" and "Passenger Side" when I received them, and during install I simply reversed them. Meaning, I used the AUS driver side bracket on the US passenger, and the AUS passenger on the US driver and everything went smooth. Maybe this is something you've already tried, but my brake lines are no where near anything of worry like you mentioned in your video.

Hope this helps!

Thanks for reaching out… these say L and R but I’ll look at swapping to see if that helps at all. The interesting thing is that the entire brake line on the other side of the frame is solid the whole way up and across the frame. Were your lines flexible other than the small part from the bracket to the caliper?

cheers
Kyle

 

[Hofstetm]

Thanks for reaching out… these say L and R but I’ll look at swapping to see if that helps at all. The interesting thing is that the entire brake line on the other side of the frame is solid the whole way up and across the frame. Were your lines flexible other than the small part from the bracket to the caliper?

cheers
Kyle

Same as yours, just the part near the caliper, however, there's a small clip on each side inside the frame which holds the brake line to the frame. You can move the hard line up and down slightly inside that clip (which I did, I don't think I removed it). Here's some not great photos of each bracket. D for drivers, P for passenger.

 

[ozraptor]

Thanks for reaching out… these say L and R but I’ll look at swapping to see if that helps at all. The interesting thing is that the entire brake line on the other side of the frame is solid the whole way up and across the frame. Were your lines flexible other than the small part from the bracket to the caliper?

cheers
Kyle

I just realised I’ve been watching your YT channel since you got your Raptor. Hadn’t seen the airbags ones yet. Great content!

Fyi, the BOSS bag brackets are side-specific. On the upper bag bracket there’s two “fins” with different profiles so it seats up to the base of the chassis rail correctly. Not sure if the AAA ones are like that, but worth checking.

I also noticed your lower bracket is different (square bracket with triangle profile, BOSS is round like the axle).

Are your bag lines quite flexible? (looks like it from your video) The BOSS kit uses 400psi DOT red air brake lines (fairly rigid). Seems like the flexible ones would be a bit easier to route.

 

[ozraptor]

@KayaPayaPigDog Your latest video about the airbags was exactly the same conclusion I came to as well. I only use mine when I'm going camping and 4x4 fully loaded to keep it from squatting so low, and only inflate so it's a bit under level to reduce the rebound bounce.

Thanks for sharing all your findings and info! I wish it had been available when I started out, haha.

 

[KayaPayaPigDog]

@KayaPayaPigDog Your latest video about the airbags was exactly the same conclusion I came to as well. I only use mine when I'm going camping and 4x4 fully loaded to keep it from squatting so low, and only inflate so it's a bit under level to reduce the rebound bounce.

Thanks for sharing all your findings and info! I wish it had been available when I started out, haha.

Well it’s good to know I wasn’t having issues that no one else had and that you felt the same thing. I’m still super happy that I have them for when I need them and so far I haven’t noticed any sort of ill effects from having them on and not pressurized for normal driving with 100-200 lbs of cargo in the bed and on the rack. Thanks for the message and confirmation that I’m not alone in my conclusions. Makes me feel better about them. Cheers

 

[KayaPayaPigDog]

I just realised I’ve been watching your YT channel since you got your Raptor. Hadn’t seen the airbags ones yet. Great content!

Fyi, the BOSS bag brackets are side-specific. On the upper bag bracket there’s two “fins” with different profiles so it seats up to the base of the chassis rail correctly. Not sure if the AAA ones are like that, but worth checking.

I also noticed your lower bracket is different (square bracket with triangle profile, BOSS is round like the axle).

Are your bag lines quite flexible? (looks like it from your video) The BOSS kit uses 400psi DOT red air brake lines (fairly rigid). Seems like the flexible ones would be a bit easier to route.

These lines were pretty flexible and easy to get down to the airbag connections for sure and still plenty strong enough for the relatively low pressures that these systems operate under.
I don’t think you are alone in not putting the two names together (kayapayapigdog and Flaberdoopin) I should have just stuck with one of them for both… lesson learned haha. I like the axle brackets for the BOSS system, they look more well thought out but the brackets from the AAA are super stout, they just leave a 2-3 inch gap between that puts a lot of the strain on the bolts… hopefully they continue to hold strong. Thanks for the info and I may take another look at my pac side brake line relocation kit… I was a little hesitant to put that much of a bend on the rigid metal brake lines going up and across the frame to the master cylinder

 

[Ag3ntC00p3r]

All good info here. My goal is to reduce drop when running full loadout with RTT, cooler, batteries, and gear for multi week trips.
Normal day to day it sounds like I’ll deal with droop from rack and RTT to keep ride quality.
Looks like my missing parts just cleared customs so hopefully will install next weekend.

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