F-150 Lightning EV Canceled. EREV Hybrid Lightning Replacement Announced

[Onceaneagle]

What do mean on this part? the electric one is good if you are driving around town. If you have to go to a further town, like we do, the electric is a no go.

Its 150 miles from my house to san antonio. A tank of gas gets me to san antonio and back, even with driving around san antonio shopping before coming home.

That is the main killer for an all electric car to me. No big towns are close to me so i need a hybrid or gas. San antonio is the closest, next is brownsville and mcallen, then laredo, austin, and houston.


I really like the electric idea, its just not ready for places like south texas. Though lots of people have them as second cars here for staying in town, which is about a perfect set up.

Agree. Our second vehicle is an Escape Hybrid. Fine for driving into Wichita, parking, shopping, and back. Drove it into town today. Got 42 mpg with AWD.

EV is not great as a work truck in rural America with large distances or hours between towns and cities. It is not great for farmers and ranchers where work is not 9-4 but more like 4-9 and often lots longer, and plugging in may or may not be doable every night. Or things happen out there at 2AM when a livestock water tank alarm alerts and you need the truck now to find out what's going on. If you need gas, you pump it out of your own storage tank.

No one I know owns an EV truck, they have F250s and F350s or similar. I am the Lone Ranger!

I sometimes think too many politicians who pushed EV with the mandates and bans and even specific charging times, and the manufactures who make them, live in cities and have never been in a soybean or corn field or a barn. They might even believe brown cows give chocolate milk.

For those who like EV trucks, great. They work for many people. Not for me.

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[purdyd]

What do mean on this part? the electric one is good if you are driving around town. If you have to go to a further town, like we do, the electric is a no go.

Its 150 miles from my house to san antonio. A tank of gas gets me to san antonio and back, even with driving around san antonio shopping before coming home.

That is the main killer for an all electric car to me. No big towns are close to me so i need a hybrid or gas. San antonio is the closest, next is brownsville and mcallen, then laredo, austin, and houston.


I really like the electric idea, its just not ready for places like south texas. Though lots of people have them as second cars here for staying in town, which is about a perfect set up.

I think you summarized that nicely.

but I think range and charging will be less of an issue as we move forward

i guess you were asking about the hype and adoption charts?

we see that trend again and again where something is really hyped up and then comes crashing down and several years later it finally lives up to its promise

i think artificial intelligence is in the hype stage.

remeber the dot com crash and where ecommerce and websites are now

same cycle.

 

[Lion77]

https://newmediadetroit.com/ford-cancels-major-ev-programs-records-nearly-20b-in-charges/

Maybe someone should inform the Ford rep that the T3 has been cancelled. Power generation, power distribution and power storage technologies are all vastly immature for mass EV adoption and practicality for the majority of people and applications.

Our electrical grid simply isn't designed for an all-EV fleet and the push for EV's is entirely based on the global warming cult (which is largely consensus opinions among academic circles). I've been saying this for quite some time, Hybrids are the next evolution of propulsion.

Hybrids offer significant improvements in low-end torque for performance vehicles (thus augmenting gas engines), they use about 1/10th of the rare earth minerals to manufacture compared to an EV, don't have any of the range limits (in fact eco-focused hybrids have better range that all gas or all electric) and performance oriented hybrids offer better performance than all gas and more consistent performance than all electric powertrains.

If the battery, power distribution and power generation were up to par, EV's all the way. But until those issues are solved, no bueno! I think for EV's to be viable, you need 500+ miles of range and no longer than 20~30 minutes of re-charge times to 100%, not 80% where your already limited range is now EVEN WORSE for the next leg!

I do think EV's make some sense in densely populated cities, where the grid is highly developed (lots of distribution), trips are normally short distances where gas engines DO NOT accel because they aren't fully warming up, but then again, plug in hybrids could also fill that role at a much lower cost, load on the grid and provide EV propulsion for short trips, but gas operation for long trips....so there's go the EV case yet again.

 

[embedded rock]

This plant is about two hours up I-65. Have seen it a couple of times while it was being built. It's massive.

Now 1,600 will lose their job there.

https://www.wdrb.com/news/business/...cle_32ef2a58-eb9d-4bf4-820d-c2417b6793ea.html

 

[superj]

Or they will just build something else

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