Order Placed - Allocations Required?

[HighDesertRanger]

That could be. I've seen DOC fees described differently depending on the state. PDI should be included in MSRP regardless.

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[Ranger#5?]

Thanks for the input! I heard Sept. 14th too. The odd thing is that they told me they won't have an order confirmation for me until Ford starts scheduling. Kinda confusing.

Also, I don't have a Maverick. This is my first order ever. In fact, I am truckless at the moment.

yeah, my bad on that. I was scrolling up & down while editing and mistakenly thought I saw 22 Maverick in your profile...

 

[Ranger#5?]

I'm confused by the "moot point" statement a few posts above regarding allocations. If by moot you mean scheduling is down the road, the OP is still in back of the line, thus waiting even longer for his build. When this particualr dealership eventually gets an allocation slot for him., how long will that be, next month, the month after...who knows.

A dealer needs to have allocation in a given month for Ford to even considered scheduling from a dealersip.

Allocation is the number of a given vehicle that Ford is agreeing to build for a particular dealer. And, while Ford gives out "estimated" yearly allocation....allocation is granted monthly. Ford offers a dealer a certain amount of allocation based on prior sales, market share, and retail orders in the system.

Robo, trust me, there are sooo many unforseen things that can and very often do go wrong. They add to your wait that we have no control over, and Ford had no way to anticipate. Why let something you can control for the moment (allocation) add to that. Based upon statements in this forum some people think the standard Ranger is going to be an easy consumer purchase due to alledgedly low retail order numbers at this point. We don't know that, even if the retail numbers are low now. Once the new Ranger hits the streets, and people like what they see, the sales can, and I think probably will start going up. I mean we are on this forum because we like the Ranger. If the dealership you are dealing with is a large one (as you state), and has no allocations, that must mean they have fullfilled their current allocation. Therefore, at least in your area the sales must not be that low.

Additional added fee's, sure a dealer can add that, and some obviously do. "This charge represents costs and additional profit to the dealership" is a "slap on" ADM, no way around that. I personally don't feel it is an ethical practice, and I would never pay it. There are plenty of dealers that don't add that. Why pay more for a fee that is litterally being "slapped on" if you do not have too?

Robo, you have BEEN TOLD they currently do not have an allocation for you, hence no scheduling potential until they do. Make your life easier, go find yourself a dealership that does.

Allocations are fluid, and they don't get assigned for eternity to a buyer's order based on a time stamp or anything. There can be multiple orders for the same vehicle at a particular dealership but there can be reasons why the factory might pass over a couple earlier orders and choose one submitted much later. Constraint items are a big driver of this. When I was going through my Maverick purchase process, I started at Priority 19 at my dealer along with all other orders. There was a regional scheduling team that would preview orders to check if they were submitted correctly and other factors and eventually, I was moved to Priority 2 and "locked" to any changes and my status became "in Production" and I stayed there for weeks after getting my VIN (but no window sticker available). In Production is a generic term but doesn't mean you are rolling down the line any specific week or day. The factory still had to select my order to actually get built.

Ford kept updating constraints items and telling dealers to have customers remove any of those items to increase their chances of getting selected by the factory to actually get built. We did remove everything possible after getting the regional inventory specialist to unlock my order and set priority back to 10 so my dealer could change the order and resubmit. That went through and I was put back to Priority 2 and locked again. A few days later the factory selected me to go "in the factory" and actually get a build date. During this time, there was no allocation waiting for me to get built and shipped. My dealer had a program he could look at to see whose orders from his list were already in the factory waiting to get built. 2 Mavericks were ahead of me and 1 behind me. The 2 ahead of me each had to wait for an allocation to my dealer before their truck could get built and some months NONE were given to my dealer. Eventually the 2 in front of me got built and shipped and I was next. 2 more months were skipped before I finally got the next allocation and went down the line. I checked in at my dealer every Thursday to see if they got my allocation until we finally did. Then he told me the guy behind me was NEVER going to get built because he had a Hybrid and those were balanced out for the year already.

So bottom line is the allocation comes in way further into the process and an order that isn't even locked at priority 2 and available for the factory to select to build can be passed over by a later order from the same dealer if the later order is clean with no constraints and the factory knows they have the parts coming available to build it sooner. It's not an exact process with locked in timelines and shopping dealers for allocations doesn't guarantee you anything towards getting built if they have multiple orders. Seems illogical and unfair, but that's how it works, and you really have no control over the process no matter when you order or where.

 

[Raynger24]

That could be. I've seen DOC fees described differently depending on the state. PDI should be included in MSRP regardless.

In looking into this, you are correct! Based on the OP's Zip code he lives in Colorado. According to my reserach, "Colorado has an average doc fee of $490. This line item is typically called "a dealer handling fee” in that state in addition to others. One learns something new everyday as I've never heard it called that before.

 

[BigDamnHeroes]

Do we even know if any dealer knows how many non-Raptor Rangers they're going to get allocated for the first scheduling batch yet?

While it shouldn't stop them from entering the order.. I suppose it's possible the dealer doesn't actually know how many Ranger Allocations they're getting yet..

 

[HighDesertRanger]

Okay, I researched this, and I believe you are correct! Based on the OP's Zip code he lives in Colorado. According to my reserach, "Colorado has an average doc fee of $490. This line item is typically called "a dealer handling fee” in that state in addition to others.

One learns something new everyday as I've never heard it called that before!

Onto the "allocations" subject. I'm just trying to simply state it seems like it would be easier for the OP to find another dealership with allocations, then having to worry about it.

I'm located in New Mexico and here it is referred to as a "Dealer Transfer Service Fee". At the end of the day it's the same as a Doc fee, just called something else for legal reasons.

I am wondering if as mentioned above dealers may not know how many allocations they are getting yet and trying to play it safe.

 

[Ranger#5?]

Going off my research, and member's Bt_okst and BDH, whom seem to be subject experts, I'm still not understanding your above post. You even gave a "like" to their posts, so I'm not sure what I'm writing differently. You are talking about priority codes, constraints, and allocation. While interconnected they are still different parts of the retail ordering process. I'm strictly talking about allocations. From my research, without an allocation for the dealership the build will not be scheduled...regardless of prioity code or parts (constraints) becoming available, and the Ford ordering systems moves onto another dealership with allocations and similar build. I have read enough of your posts to ackowledge you know what you are talking about. So, let's just agree to disagree, even though I'm still not sure what we are disagreeing about.

Bottom line for me. It just seems easier the OP should find a dealer that has allocations, that way all of this other static can be tuned out.

Try researching JIT or “lean manufacturing” and maybe that will help connect the dots how so many processes are intertwined to produce vehicles. You can absolutely get your order scheduled and even rescheduled for production dates without your dealer having an allocation to build it. Scheduling changes basically in real time as promised deliveries show up or not. The factory can plan on running certain builds down the line a specific day- depending on all components being available to complete them. Many times parts are delayed beyond promised date and Schedulers have to scramble and change the planned production run on the fly to build another configuration instead to keep the line running. Allocating a particular order can’t happen if the build isn’t happening for some reason.

It would be nice if this was a Binary process you could flow chart start to finish, but there are delay loops in the flow chart and it becomes a Trinary operation instead.

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