Lion77
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I see a lot of people claim the RR stock needs this or that and really kind paint it as a not so great and desperately in need of bigger tires and a lift to do any serious off-roading (trails etc.). There is no doubt that if you want to optimize the RR for wheelin', those can offer some significant enhancement to an otherwise already capable truck.
But how does it stack up to the gold standard of "Raptor", the F-150? Just some food for thought on how versatile the RR really is even stock, especially at its price point:
Cranking Up the O.G. Desert Predator: Ford Unleashes Most Off-Road Capable and Connected F-150 Raptor Ever | Canada | English | Ford Media Center
"Wearing 35-inch tires, Raptor clears 12-inch obstacles with an approach angle of 31 degrees, maximum departure angle of 23.9 degrees and breakover angle of 22.7 degrees. Raptor with 37-inch tires features 13.1 inches of running clearance, 33.1 degrees of approach angle, a maximum 24.9 degrees of departure angle and 24.4 degrees of breakover angle."
F-150 on stock 35's:
Approach 31 degrees
Breakover 22.7 degrees
Departure 23.9 degrees
RR on stock 33's
Approach 33 degrees
Breakover is 24.2 degrees
Departure 26.4 degrees
If you upgrade the F-150 to factory 37's they offer (quite expensive), then they match up much more closely in approach, departure and break-over. The F-150 is a big, long truck, so it needs a lot more ground clearance to make those angles workable!
I think a pair of angled rock sliders and a high clearance front bumper would do wonders for the stock RR's wheelin' capability without even touching the suspension or tire size. A 1" lift in the front would help with approach (guessing 1-2 degrees of additional approach) while not eliminating the critical rake for on-throttle handling when the rear squats for higher speed stuff, assuming the bed is not loaded, but if you plan to load the bed and still handle some squat, the higher factory rake is better.
I'm thinking a high clearance bumper with a 1" front lift would get you into the high 30's for approach even on stock tires and that's kinda my take on balancing 4x4 capability while maintaining its rally nature. What would be really nice is to run 34's or 34.5's with a high clearance fender option, so you're not lifting the truck's suspension....one day I may embark on a custom fender project to see if it can be done!
With +35 off-set wheels, the 0.5 to 0.8in gain in ground clearance would help for wheelin' but have little effect on cornering due to the added stance off-setting the slight increase in CG from tires and it's "true ground clearance", not just lifting the chassis like strut spacers, which I think is the most useful overall.
But how does it stack up to the gold standard of "Raptor", the F-150? Just some food for thought on how versatile the RR really is even stock, especially at its price point:
Cranking Up the O.G. Desert Predator: Ford Unleashes Most Off-Road Capable and Connected F-150 Raptor Ever | Canada | English | Ford Media Center
"Wearing 35-inch tires, Raptor clears 12-inch obstacles with an approach angle of 31 degrees, maximum departure angle of 23.9 degrees and breakover angle of 22.7 degrees. Raptor with 37-inch tires features 13.1 inches of running clearance, 33.1 degrees of approach angle, a maximum 24.9 degrees of departure angle and 24.4 degrees of breakover angle."
F-150 on stock 35's:
Approach 31 degrees
Breakover 22.7 degrees
Departure 23.9 degrees
RR on stock 33's
Approach 33 degrees
Breakover is 24.2 degrees
Departure 26.4 degrees
If you upgrade the F-150 to factory 37's they offer (quite expensive), then they match up much more closely in approach, departure and break-over. The F-150 is a big, long truck, so it needs a lot more ground clearance to make those angles workable!
I think a pair of angled rock sliders and a high clearance front bumper would do wonders for the stock RR's wheelin' capability without even touching the suspension or tire size. A 1" lift in the front would help with approach (guessing 1-2 degrees of additional approach) while not eliminating the critical rake for on-throttle handling when the rear squats for higher speed stuff, assuming the bed is not loaded, but if you plan to load the bed and still handle some squat, the higher factory rake is better.
I'm thinking a high clearance bumper with a 1" front lift would get you into the high 30's for approach even on stock tires and that's kinda my take on balancing 4x4 capability while maintaining its rally nature. What would be really nice is to run 34's or 34.5's with a high clearance fender option, so you're not lifting the truck's suspension....one day I may embark on a custom fender project to see if it can be done!
With +35 off-set wheels, the 0.5 to 0.8in gain in ground clearance would help for wheelin' but have little effect on cornering due to the added stance off-setting the slight increase in CG from tires and it's "true ground clearance", not just lifting the chassis like strut spacers, which I think is the most useful overall.
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