2.3 Tune now available. 322 hp / 359 tq.

[RangerDangerStranger]

Don't get me strarted on the plastic oil pan.... LoL...

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[DIYPSCM]

Waiting for the MPG... nothing is free, tuning is a balance.

 

[4 Banger]

Waiting for the MPG... nothing is free, tuning is a balance.

This isn’t a Prius forum, nobody is going to care about a mpg hit, it’s going to be small difference or possibly none at all. How often are you WOT?

If mpg were really a concern then the v6 is 10.5% less efficient than a 2.3. That’s like 12 bucks a month. It’s negligible.

 

[DIYPSCM]

This isn’t a Prius forum, nobody is going to care about a mpg hit, it’s going to be small difference or possibly none at all. How often are you WOT?

If mpg were really a concern then the v6 is 10.5% less efficient than a 2.3. That’s like 12 bucks a month. It’s negligible.

You really should step back & see how your online posts reflect on you with your blanket absolute statements. You are desperately trying to defend your personal choices on a public forum. Trust me, no one cares.

MPG IS a concern to many. It's the ONLY reason I'm not driving a Raptor. I commute 450 miles a week. But you say it's negligible... so be it. As well as the cost of premium.

You also state that the hit is only at WOT. Glad you posted that in public too.

Bye now.

 

[stemplar]

This isn’t a Prius forum, nobody is going to care about a mpg hit, it’s going to be small difference or possibly none at all. How often are you WOT?

Narrator: "It seems that some people do, in fact, care."
https://www.ranger6g.com/forum/threads/tune-killing-mpg.14540/

 

[4 Banger]

You really should step back & see how your online posts reflect on you with your blanket absolute statements. You are desperately trying to defend your personal choices on a public forum. Trust me, no one cares.

MPG IS a concern to many. It's the ONLY reason I'm not driving a Raptor. I commute 450 miles a week. But you say it's negligible... so be it. As well as the cost of premium.

You also state that the hit is only at WOT. Glad you posted that in public too.

Bye now.

This is a pickup truck forum, there is discussion, sometimes it gets heated!

I’m stepping back like you said and looking over this 2.3 thread. Yes it’s silly. But isn’t there something inside of you that just likes to respond? It’s like we are keyboard warriors defending our internet honor! Lol

You know what though, I’m probably not going to even get the tune! I’m too cheap! Sport mode works well enough for me. Lol

 

[RacerX]

450 miles a week to commute is unfathomable to me, so I had to run the numbers through Copilot AI.

My assumptions:
48 weeks of commuting * 450 miles per week = 21,600 miles per year.
I googled for average price of gasoline in san francisco.
The average price of gasoline in San Francisco is currently $4.84 per gallon, which is nearly 65% higher than the national average2

4WD Ranger EPA combined value: Fuel Economy of 2024 - 2025 Ford Ranger
2.3 - 22mpg
2.7 - 20mpg
3.0 - 17mpg

prompt:
I put on average 21,600 miles per year on my vehicle commuting. The average price of a gallon of fuel in my hometown is $4.84 per gallon. I'm debating between three different options for a new vehicle. The first one gets 22 miles per gallon, the second one gets 20 miles per gallon, and the thrid one get's 17 miles per gallon. How much more expensive will fuel be for the year if I chose the second or third option over the first?

answer:

Let's calculate the annual fuel costs for each vehicle option:

1. First Vehicle (22 MPG):
   • Annual mileage: 21,600 miles
   • Fuel efficiency: 22 miles per gallon
   • Fuel required: 21,600 miles/22 MPG≈981.82 gallons
   • Annual fuel cost: 981.82 gallons×$4.84 per gallon≈$4,752.01
2. Second Vehicle (20 MPG):
   • Annual mileage: 21,600 miles
   • Fuel efficiency: 20 miles per gallon
   • Fuel required: 21,600 miles/20 MPG=1,080 gallons
   • Annual fuel cost: 1,080 gallons×$4.84 per gallon≈$5,227.20
3. Third Vehicle (17 MPG):
   • Annual mileage: 21,600 miles
   • Fuel efficiency: 17 miles per gallon
   • Fuel required: 21,600 miles/17 MPG≈1,270.59 gallons
   • Annual fuel cost: 1,270.59 gallons×$4.84 per gallon≈$6,149.66

Now, let's determine the additional cost of choosing the second or third vehicle over the first:

• Second Vehicle vs. First Vehicle:
  • Additional cost: $5,227.20−$4,752.01≈$475.19
• Third Vehicle vs. First Vehicle:
  • Additional cost: $6,149.66−$4,752.01≈$1,397.65

So, if you choose the second vehicle, you'll spend approximately \$475.19 more on fuel per year compared to the first vehicle. If you choose the third vehicle, you'll spend approximately \$1,397.65 more per year.

Would you like any further help with these calculations, or is there anything else on your mind?

follow-up question:
how much would i pay for fuel per month for each of the three choices

answer:

Let's break down the annual fuel costs into monthly expenses for each vehicle option.

1. First Vehicle (22 MPG):
   • Annual fuel cost: \$4,752.01
   • Monthly fuel cost: $4,752.0112≈$396.00
2. Second Vehicle (20 MPG):
   • Annual fuel cost: \$5,227.20
   • Monthly fuel cost: $5,227.2012≈$435.60
3. Third Vehicle (17 MPG):
   • Annual fuel cost: \$6,149.66
   • Monthly fuel cost: $6,149.6612≈$512.47

So, for fuel each month, you'd pay approximately:

• \$396.00 for the first vehicle,
• \$435.60 for the second vehicle, and
• \$512.47 for the third vehicle.

Would you like any further details or assistance with anything else?

 

[DIYPSCM]

450 miles a week to commute is unfathomable to me, so I had to run the numbers through Copilot AI.

My assumptions:
48 weeks of commuting * 450 miles per week = 21,600 miles per year.
I googled for average price of gasoline in san francisco.
The average price of gasoline in San Francisco is currently $4.84 per gallon, which is nearly 65% higher than the national average2

4WD Ranger EPA combined value: Fuel Economy of 2024 - 2025 Ford Ranger
2.3 - 22mpg
2.7 - 20mpg
3.0 - 17mpg

prompt:
I put on average 21,600 miles per year on my vehicle commuting. The average price of a gallon of fuel in my hometown is $4.84 per gallon. I'm debating between three different options for a new vehicle. The first one gets 22 miles per gallon, the second one gets 20 miles per gallon, and the thrid one get's 17 miles per gallon. How much more expensive will fuel be for the year if I chose the second or third option over the first?

answer:

Let's calculate the annual fuel costs for each vehicle option:

1. First Vehicle (22 MPG):
   • Annual mileage: 21,600 miles
   • Fuel efficiency: 22 miles per gallon
   • Fuel required: 21,600 miles/22 MPG≈981.82 gallons
   • Annual fuel cost: 981.82 gallons×$4.84 per gallon≈$4,752.01
2. Second Vehicle (20 MPG):
   • Annual mileage: 21,600 miles
   • Fuel efficiency: 20 miles per gallon
   • Fuel required: 21,600 miles/20 MPG=1,080 gallons
   • Annual fuel cost: 1,080 gallons×$4.84 per gallon≈$5,227.20
3. Third Vehicle (17 MPG):
   • Annual mileage: 21,600 miles
   • Fuel efficiency: 17 miles per gallon
   • Fuel required: 21,600 miles/17 MPG≈1,270.59 gallons
   • Annual fuel cost: 1,270.59 gallons×$4.84 per gallon≈$6,149.66

Now, let's determine the additional cost of choosing the second or third vehicle over the first:

• Second Vehicle vs. First Vehicle:
  • Additional cost: $5,227.20−$4,752.01≈$475.19
• Third Vehicle vs. First Vehicle:
  • Additional cost: $6,149.66−$4,752.01≈$1,397.65

So, if you choose the second vehicle, you'll spend approximately \$475.19 more on fuel per year compared to the first vehicle. If you choose the third vehicle, you'll spend approximately \$1,397.65 more per year.

Would you like any further help with these calculations, or is there anything else on your mind?

follow-up question:
how much would i pay for fuel per month for each of the three choices

answer:

Let's break down the annual fuel costs into monthly expenses for each vehicle option.

1. First Vehicle (22 MPG):
   • Annual fuel cost: \$4,752.01
   • Monthly fuel cost: $4,752.0112≈$396.00
2. Second Vehicle (20 MPG):
   • Annual fuel cost: \$5,227.20
   • Monthly fuel cost: $5,227.2012≈$435.60
3. Third Vehicle (17 MPG):
   • Annual fuel cost: \$6,149.66
   • Monthly fuel cost: $6,149.6612≈$512.47

So, for fuel each month, you'd pay approximately:

• \$396.00 for the first vehicle,
• \$435.60 for the second vehicle, and
• \$512.47 for the third vehicle.

Would you like any further details or assistance with anything else?

Yes, you're leaving out the $500+ for premium fuel.

The premise was that nobody cares about mileage. You've changed nothing, in fact you proved my point.

 

[RacerX]

Yes, you're leaving out the $500+ for premium fuel.

The premise was that nobody cares about mileage. You've changed nothing, in fact you proved my point.

Only tuned Ranger motors require premium fuel. All make rated power at 91 octane, all accept 87.

I was not out to change anybody's mind or prove any point. As I said, "450 miles a week to commute is unfathomable to me, so I had to run the numbers through Copilot AI." and I decided to share the output.
I'd hate to have to drive that much.

You seem to be pretty salty about people making blanket statements about truck buyers not caring about MPG, so I asked copilot for some help on how you can save money on fuel.


prompt:
what are ways i can pay less for fuel when commuting to work

answer:

Here are several strategies to help reduce your fuel costs when commuting to work:

1. Carpool or Ride-Share

• Sharing a ride with coworkers or friends can significantly cut down on fuel expenses. Plus, it's great for the environment!

2. Use Public Transportation

• If available, public transportation can be a cost-effective alternative to driving. It also saves you the hassle of driving during rush hour.

3. Optimize Your Route

• Use navigation apps to find the most fuel-efficient routes. Avoiding heavy traffic and unnecessary detours can save both time and fuel.

4. Maintain Your Vehicle

• Regular maintenance like oil changes, tire inflation, and engine tune-ups can improve your vehicle's fuel efficiency.

5. Drive Efficiently

• Avoid rapid acceleration and hard braking. Smooth and steady driving uses less fuel.

6. Reduce Vehicle Weight

• Remove unnecessary items from your car. Extra weight can decrease your fuel economy.

7. Use Fuel Rewards Programs

• Many gas stations offer rewards programs that can save you money on fuel purchases.

8. Consider Alternative Work Schedules

• If possible, negotiate flexible work hours or remote work days to reduce the number of commuting days.

9. Fuel-Efficient Vehicles

• If you're in the market for a new car, consider hybrid or electric vehicles, which typically have much better fuel efficiency.

10. Drive at Steady Speeds

• Using cruise control on highways can help maintain a constant speed and improve fuel economy.

Making a few changes to your commuting habits can add up to significant savings over time. Is there a specific strategy you’re curious about, or perhaps another way I can assist you today?

 

[Mikefili]

This isn’t a Prius forum, nobody is going to care about a mpg hit, it’s going to be small difference or possibly none at all. How often are you WOT?

If mpg were really a concern then the v6 is 10.5% less efficient than a 2.3. That’s like 12 bucks a month. It’s negligible.

How true! this is not a Prius forum, LOL. I must say I have never seen so many people agonizing over weather their truck is getting 21 or 21.5 MPG, very little posts about what a great truck or what a bad truck they have, almost every other post is about MPG,

 

[vamosemonkey]

From theford website it appears 2.3 tune is limited to US spec ranger only?
What is the difference with South Africa made ranger?
Any one outside USA, tried?

To the knowledgeable folks, what worst can happen? Should I give it a try?

 

[Kduane01]

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-9603-REBA

Anybody buy it yet?

I would if I had went with the 2.3. It is, though, probably a mild baseline tune based on the increased performance numbers afvertised but perhaps Livernois will do data logging with you if you ask since they appear to be the only ones with the decrypt info so far to write tune files for the 2024.

I will be right there when 2.7 availability is offered since we waited for the job2 builds that offered it with the factory 400 tq number, will be a great starting point. We used MPT and 5Star with the F150 ecoboost platform and both shops were excellent to work with for data logging updates to get it dialed in.

 

[Sea Lindsey]

My guess would be an hour of labor

I have a dealer appointment to have the 3.0 tune installed. The qouted labor was one hour. Have to wait until Jan. 2nd though. Darn Christmas!

 

[4 Banger]

I would if I had went with the 2.3. It is, though, probably a mild baseline tune based on the increased performance numbers afvertised but perhaps Livernois will do data logging with you if you ask since they appear to be the only ones with the decrypt info so far to write tune files for the 2024.

I will be right there when 2.7 availability is offered since we waited for the job2 builds that offered it with the factory 400 tq number, will be a great starting point. We used MPT and 5Star with the F150 ecoboost platform and both shops were excellent to work with for data logging updates to get it dialed in.

I had bad luck with livernois. I was one of the 1st if not the first to get the 22 Ranger 2.3 tune. It was great and pulled hard. Only issue, I could hear knocking under heavy load. I data logged and sent the file in and they said the tune they sent wasn’t programmed to read knock. Kind of a big deal if you want your engine to make it to the 1st oil change. In 22 I guess they changed some knock strategy and my truck was the guinea pig. Didn’t sit well with me. Never any apology. Got a partial refund back from them. Lost a lot of time and frustration. So if I did get a tune I think it would only be the ford one.

 

[Kduane01]

I had bad luck with livernois......... So if I did get a tune I think it would only be the ford one.

I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, that they were the ones that wrote the Ford Performance tunes for the 2024s.

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