35" Falken Wildpeak RT on Relations Race Wheels RR7-H Matte Bronze -- Cactus Gray RR

[GLT]

I think your rubbing might because of your change to +25 but good to know about your experience.

Unless it's changed, he's running stock suspension, so it's impressive he has minimal rubbing with heavy offroad use. The shop that installed my springs said the same thing -- lots of room under there.

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[Goldylox22]

Today I had Hyperco coil springs installed -- 2.25" in the front and 1" (non-HD) in the rear -- and mounted my 35x11.50R17 Falken Wildpeak RT01 on RRW wheels in 17x8.5 with +25 offset. Very happy with how it turned out. No rubbing at all lock to lock, with plenty of clearance for the type of offroading I'll be doing. No trimming was required. I had the ReadyLift high clearance crash bars installed as well.

There's still a little bit of rake, which I'm OK with. I could've skipped the rear coils and it would've set almost level (probably would've been a little nose high, which I did not want). Also, I wanted to do the coils on all four corners.

The 11.5" wide tire really helped with the clearance. I was a bit worried the 11.5" would look a little narrow, but the Wildpeak RT has a fairly aggressive tread and big side lugs, so it looks pretty good IMO.

After considering the various coil spring (Geiser, Eibach and Hyperco) and lift collar offerings, I decided to go with the Hyperco coils based on my desired height in the front and back and the quality and reputation of Hypercoil. I didn't know much about Hypercoil springs until researching them -- they've been around for years and have a great reputation across many different applications. I've only driven it 15 miles on the freeway, but the ride was not noticeably stiffer, even on Dallas potholes.

Anyway, sorry for the long post and for the crappy iphone pics.

How long was processing/delivery on the HyperCo springs?

 

[Ultra45]

How long was processing/delivery on the HyperCo springs?

My order shipped same day and took 4 days to get from IN to CA.

 

[GLT]

My order shipped same day and took 4 days to get from IN to CA.

Same for me -- 4-5 days from order date to delivery in Texas.

 

[Galaxybrooks]

This is exactly how I'm starting to build mine out. My offroad guy went right to Hyperco and I just had them installed. I'm still riding stock WT's with the KO3's but I'm leaning towards MT Baja Boss 35/12.50/17 with an +25 offset wheel. Thanks for this post. Guessing there could be problems with jumping/heavy off roading with 12.50's vs 11.50's?

 

[GLT]

This is exactly how I'm starting to build mine out. My offroad guy went right to Hyperco and I just had them installed. I'm still riding stock WT's with the KO3's but I'm leaning towards MT Baja Boss 35/12.50/17 with an +25 offset wheel. Thanks for this post. Guessing there could be problems with jumping/heavy off roading with 12.50's vs 11.50's?

The 35x12.50R17 will definitely fit with +25 offset wheels; if you are doing heavy offroading you will likely have to trim the inside portion of the fender well behind the front tire as shown in this post. This is an extremely common area to trim on both RR and F-150 Raptors. You may have to trim a little more if jumping it. Several folks on the forum are offroading with 12.5" wide tires (including @MidnightSpecial , the author of the trimming post I linked above), so they can chime in.

The MT Baja Boss is a great tire and I strongly considered it; the only downside is the weight. The 35x12.50R17 weighs 73 lbs, and the 315/70R17 weighs 72 lbs.

What are your impressions of the Hyperco springs? I have been extremely pleased with them.

 

[Galaxybrooks]

The 35x12.50R17 will definitely fit with +25 offset wheels; if you are doing heavy offroading you will likely have to trim the inside portion of the fender well behind the front tire as shown in this post. This is an extremely common area to trim on both RR and F-150 Raptors. You may have to trim a little more if jumping it. Several folks on the forum are offroading with 12.5" wide tires (including @MidnightSpecial , the author of the trimming post I linked above), so they can chime in.

The MT Baja Boss is a great tire and I strongly considered it; the only downside is the weight. The 35x12.50R17 weighs 73 lbs, and the 315/70R17 weighs 72 lbs.

What are your impressions of the Hyperco springs? I have been extremely pleased with them.

Only got them yesterday so I haven't driven much but the ride is definitely firmer. The real surprise was how much you notice the difference in the height for just a couple inches. The steering input to me is even sportier and responsive. Initial impressions are it feels like a performance boost on a performance truck and I'm stoked. Now I want 35's because of the extra space. I'm ready to see how the feel off road. Plus they look sick with the matching carbon/Grey to the fox strut. Did you adjust anything with forescan? My shop mentioned they use forescan to do something. I know its controversial whether springs affect the live valve and whether you should get spacers, etc...Ford performance says up to 3 inches in lift is within spec for stock struts.

 

[PatrickT]

GLT, if you are still following this thread, I am interested in the exact same setup with springs and tires that you have. Do you have any regrets at this point? Do you like the tires? Did you have a massive hit to your fuel economy?

 

[GLT]

GLT, if you are still following this thread, I am interested in the exact same setup with springs and tires that you have. Do you have any regrets at this point? Do you like the tires? Did you have a massive hit to your fuel economy?

Overall still very happy with the setup. Absolutely no regrets. Caveat: I’ve put less than 2,000 miles on it.

The springs are definitely a bit stiffer. I did not adjust the ride height in forscan, which I’ve been told helps, but it doesn’t bother me as all. On the springs though, you definitely need to get @Ultra45 perspective as he had the exact same setup (same tires too) and ended up pulling off the Hyperco springs due to their stiffness.

The tires are great. Very quiet on road and pretty good on wet pavement. Obviously no snow or ice experience yet; note the RT are not three snow peak rated like the AT so they clearly won’t be as good there. They are great and very grabby in sand and on the rocks. They also shed the slick sticky Texas clay extremely well.

MPG are down around 2 mpg probably. In town in stop and go, if you’re heavy footed at all it’s gonna be 12-13. I don’t track it closely at all so YMMV.

 

[Ultra45]

On the springs though, you definitely need to get @Ultra45 perspective as he had the exact same setup (same tires too) and ended up pulling off the Hyperco springs due to their stiffness.

The front springs were too stiff for me, so I removed them. There are two issues imo.

1.) Hyperco increased the spring rate or the front springs too much. The diameter of the front stock springs is .685. The Hyperco springs are .725. They used a thicker spring on the front, with more windings, to achieve the lift and this increase in spring rate made the front end VERY stiff.

2.) Lifting these trucks makes the shock piston ride in the top out zone creating a MUCH firmer and tighter (chattery) ride. The Fox IBP coilovers have a top out zone, a ride zone and a bottom out zone. In the top out and bottom out zones the IBP's start to tighten up the suspension, so as to slow down the travel of the shock shaft before a full bottom out or top out. You are effectively no longer riding in the ride zone where the IBP's have their designed bleed holes.

These two factors deteriorated the ride too much for my liking. I tried to find a shop that would weld up the bleed holes and move the ride zone as well as re-valve the shocks, but no one wants to touch them at this point.

The rears Hyperco springs rode slightly stiffer than the stock springs. The rear Hyperco and stock strings were the exactly same diameter winding, so I'm guessing they were the same spring rate just more windings to make them longer and provide the lift.

I pulled both front and rear springs off the truck. Then installed a set of Goat Offroad top hat spacers. I achieved the same amount of lift and the truck rode exactly the same as it did the day I picked it up from the dealer.

 

[PatrickT]

Wow! Thank you both for sharing your experiences. These are exactly the things I wanted to find out about before I pulled the trigger. I have been trying to decide between the two options and might actually do a hybrid approach based on your insights. I tow a teardrop trailer and do a bit of overlanding that really causes the rear springs to sag. I may go with the springs in the rear or even maybe the HD springs they offer. Then go with strut spacers in the front.

Go to know about the tires mud capabilities. Most reviews I have seen haven’t covered that aspect well. I want to go with the RT’s for that reason alone.

 

[Ultra45]

I have been trying to decide between the two options and might actually do a hybrid approach based on your insights. I tow a teardrop trailer and do a bit of overlanding that really causes the rear springs to sag.

The guy that bought my rear springs did the same thing. He had a bunch of stuff I his bed and a heavy bed cover. He installed the rear springs on his raptor to help carry the load. He seemed to really like the setup.

 

[Galaxybrooks]

The front springs were too stiff for me, so I removed them. There are two issues imo.

1.) Hyperco increased the spring rate or the front springs too much. The diameter of the front stock springs is .685. The Hyperco springs are .725. They used a thicker spring on the front, with more windings, to achieve the lift and this increase in spring rate made the front end VERY stiff.

2.) Lifting these trucks makes the shock piston ride in the top out zone creating a MUCH firmer and tighter (chattery) ride. The Fox IBP coilovers have a top out zone, a ride zone and a bottom out zone. In the top out and bottom out zones the IBP's start to tighten up the suspension, so as to slow down the travel of the shock shaft before a full bottom out or top out. You are effectively no longer riding in the ride zone where the IBP's have their designed bleed holes.

These two factors deteriorated the ride too much for my liking. I tried to find a shop that would weld up the bleed holes and move the ride zone as well as re-valve the shocks, but no one wants to touch them at this point.

The rears Hyperco springs rode slightly stiffer than the stock springs. The rear Hyperco and stock strings were the exactly same diameter winding, so I'm guessing they were the same spring rate just more windings to make them longer and provide the lift.

I pulled both front and rear springs off the truck. Then installed a set of Goat Offroad top hat spacers. I achieved the same amount of lift and the truck rode exactly the same as it did the day I picked it up from the dealer.

Chiming in. Did you go regular or heavy with the Hyperco's. I have the regular hyperco's on stock tires. I'm getting 35's put on RTR Evo 6's next week and taking them to the same shop for alignment. I'm debating whether I should pull the springs and go for the goat 2/1 setup. I do appreciate the sporty improvement in handling and haven't had a chance to do any serious offroading and sometimes the ride feels smooth but I often feel that deteriorating ride quality your talking about and can't help but wonder if the GOAT 2/1 setup gives me the lift without any the downside. Any other pro's and con's between the two setups now that you've had both?

 

[pasali]

I bought @ultra45’s rear coil springs and had them installed on my ‘24 RR. I started with a 3” front/1” rear top hat spacer lift from fordrangerlifts.com and it had the truck perfectly level with plenty of clearance for my 315/70 R17 BFG K02’s on Method 708’s +25 offset. After my first trip to Moab wheeling Top of the World and Hells Revenge, I noticed the rear end was sagging about an inch. Between all the gear I was carrying and my Diamond Back tonneau cover, it squatted the truck to the point where I had people flashing their high beams at me at night because my headlights were mis-aligned. I had the 1” hyperco’s installed in conjunction with the 1” top hat spacer and now the truck has a nice rake in the rear. I’m heading to Sand Hollow the week of Thanksgiving so I’ll be loaded down again to truly test the setup, but so far I really like the ride quality. If anything, I would have to say it actually rides smoother than before, which is counterintuitive.
Shout out to @Ultra45 for helping me reset the ride height with Forscan, which I think makes a big difference. The ride height sensors were way off when we started the Forscan process and they were all perfectly equal when the process was finished. I’m not a computer guy, so I really appreciated the help. Sorry for long post.

 

[Ultra45]

Chiming in. Did you go regular or heavy with the Hyperco's. I have the regular hyperco's on stock tires. I'm getting 35's put on RTR Evo 6's next week and taking them to the same shop for alignment. I'm debating whether I should pull the springs and go for the goat 2/1 setup. I do appreciate the sporty improvement in handling and haven't had a chance to do any serious offroading and sometimes the ride feels smooth but I often feel that deteriorating ride quality your talking about and can't help but wonder if the GOAT 2/1 setup gives me the lift without any the downside. Any other pro's and con's between the two setups now that you've had both?

I did the regular spring. I was soooo much happier with the Goat 2/1 setup. I did not take my Raptor offroad so can't say how they would perform. On road the truck was back to stock ride. With the springs Sport mode was useless. With the Goat 2/1 setup Soft was useful again.

I will admit that I am usually a fan of springs over top hat spacers. However, on these trucks I believe top hats worked better for my use case.

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