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Does the visor-mounted opener lose power at some point when parked? Obviously it should work when on, when acc is on, maybe even for xx seconds after the truck is off. I just unlocked (by handle, not fob) and was able to open the garage door without turning on the truck.

It would just make sense that is not constantly powered. Otherwise, there is no benefit (increased security) for the HoneLink vs old school opener. Maybe a FORScan option?
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Update - Hopefully this isn't a thing, but my windows were down while parked in the garage so I reached in and hit the button - nada. No lights and the door didn't open. I opened the truck door and things came alive (as expected). I hit the HomeLink button and the door opened. This is dumb.

My old Titan had HomeLink and was only powered when the truck was on and about a minute after it was off. I'm hoping for a FORScan setting or something before I reset the HomeLink button and abandon it for something more secure.

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Alright. Since I'm the only one that cares, I will respond to myself.

I ditched the HomeLink. The way it's wired makes it pretty much garbage. If it were a gate, I probably wouldn't care, but since it's a garage door, it is a security gap.

My opener was getting old and was loud anyway, so I got a new Genie with AladdinConnect. Now I can open the door with voice command from the truck or by the phone app.

Problem solved.
 

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Alright. Since I'm the only one that cares, I will respond to myself.

I ditched the HomeLink. The way it's wired makes it pretty much garbage. If it were a gate, I probably wouldn't care, but since it's a garage door, it is a security gap.

My opener was getting old and was loud anyway, so I got a new Genie with AladdinConnect. Now I can open the door with voice command from the truck or by the phone app.

Problem solved.
I guess I dont understand the problem? My homelink works with the truck on and off. Are you wanting it to not be on when the truck is off?
 

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yes. in case someone gets in so they cannot open the garage door and get into whatever they want in the garage, or even access the house through the garage door since they could close the exterior door and now break the door to inside the house without having to worry about attracting attention
 

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If you have a homelink I assume you are opening your garage door so you can park your truck inside.

I like the always on and didn’t give it another thought because before I had separate garage door remote on the visor and it was also always on.

i find it convenient as I have two separate garages and i can open and close the second one from my truck without starting it up

if it is a security issue, as you park outside, I would just not enable the homelink

but I feel if thieves are able to break into your truck they can likely just break into your house, without the homelink

although it would have been nice to build in an option disable homelink without the key in the menu
 

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some people go through the garage into the house instead of using the front door, since they park outside the garage. at least lots of people i know do that. they can't put the truck in the garage because they go other junk in there but they do go through to get inside
 

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some people go through the garage into the house instead of using the front door, since they park outside the garage. at least lots of people i know do that. they can't put the truck in the garage because they go other junk in there but they do go through to get inside
I mean the behavior of the homelink is not different then having a clicker. I would probably look into something like the meross so then you can control it with your phone and geolocation.
 

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I mean the behavior of the homelink is not different then having a clicker. I would probably look into something like the meross so then you can control it with your phone and geolocation.
I just run a smart plug between the door openers and receptacles. I have 6 of them programmed for various functions in the garage. Verry handy for locking the doors remotely, controlling the A/C in the garage, etc.
 

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I guess I dont understand the problem? My homelink works with the truck on and off. Are you wanting it to not be on when the truck is off?
Exactly. An opener is like (is) a key to your house. Old school openers have always been a security issue. That's why HomeLink was so great. In my old Titan - power off, no HomeLink. Power on, Homelink. Kinda like taking the battery with you in your old school opener (don't laugh. My friend's grandma did this habitually) for security. I hid the opener in my F150 which is why I was happy to see HomeLink in the Ranger until I learned of its constant power.
 

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There is well established criminal workflow to first hop into a vehicle (especially a known documented vehicle containing a self-powered remote) and then hit the buttons to open things, search for other remotes and, if time allows, a fallback to physically hacking into the vehicle to power on to same effect. There decisions are driven by what they know they can do and in no way requires any kind of engineering degree or formal education. They plan ahead and in real time, they can do a lot and the time they do it is in seconds, not minutes. It’s actually pretty impressive when you think about it.
 

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There is well established criminal workflow to first hop into a vehicle (especially a known documented vehicle containing a self-powered remote) and then hit the buttons to open things, search for other remotes and, if time allows, a fallback to physically hacking into the vehicle to power on to same effect. There decisions are driven by what they know they can do and in no way requires any kind of engineering degree or formal education. They plan ahead and in real time, they can do a lot and the time they do it is in seconds, not minutes. It’s actually pretty impressive when you think about it.
Yes, and there are people who will just crow bar your window, raid your truck, then kick down a door, and get in your garage or lock pick your garage door lock which takes 10 seconds to do as well. Lets not act like technology is the culprit here. Almost every consumer lock can be picked within 30 seconds or less, especially for common low grade locked like your garage door lock.
 
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Technology is not the culprit when it's deployed correctly. And let's not act like every two-bit thug knows how to pick a lock. Anti-pick top pins help with that too. I'm not saying I can stop all threats, but I can mitigate or eliminate the ones I see - HomeLink.
 

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Yeah in my previous BMW the car's garage door opener was disabled anytime a key wasn't detected. You could wake the car up without a key, but the opener didn't work and it locked out any menus with "personal information". Pretty dumb that the Ranger's garage door opener is active anytime the truck is awake.
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