Method 705 Wheels +18 Offset anyone?

[ryanO]

Is anyone running the Method 705s on a Ranger? I ordered them today in 18X9 with a +18 offset. Doing a 2.5" coil over lift with Eibach and wanting to run 275/70 r18 KO3s.
Wondering if it will work without rubbing on the UCA. I will remove crash bars for rubbing, but the UCA worries me.

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[Lion77]

+18 is a very aggressive offset, I doubt you'll have issues rubbing the UCA but you'll probably have to do some trimming in addition to the crash bars.

I have 705s on order in 17x8.5 +35 if they ever decide to stop playing games with the ship date....

 

[ryanO]

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+18 is a very aggressive offset, I doubt you'll have issues rubbing the UCA but you'll probably have to do some trimming in addition to the crash bars.

I have 705s on order in 17x8.5 +35 if they ever decide to stop playing games with the ship date....

"Lion77" makes me think youre a Penn State fan...LOL.
I've seen some people doing 0 offset with aggressive trimming and +25 with little trimming. My thought was +18 should split the difference. Haha...time will tell. I may be going with your set up in the end.

 

[Lion77]

There's a bit more to it than just fitment int he wheel well. Also consider scrub radius and body roll. Some body roll can actually help with breakaway traction forces, meanin in the performance car world where I came from, a very small amount of body roll helps with a more predictable and linear breakaway from traction to no traction, where cars with too much bar (aka sway bars or sway bar settings on adjustable that were too stiff) was unpredictable between ok and not ok.

In low traction conditions, some body roll is absolutely helpful, especially on off-road which is the definition of low traction. For high performance cars, obviously very little since tire grip is massively higher on pavement than on dirt, sand or rock, plus road tires have rounded shoulders which also help with linear breakaway characteristics vs. square shoulders on off-road tires or snow tires mean to dig into loose surfaces.

Then there's scrub radius, which affects the steering feedback and braking stability. Off-road vehicle usually have more negative scrub radius, because you don't want the rough terrain jerking your steering all over, and you want stability during braking in low traction conditions.

Wider off-sets increase scrub radius. A small increase in off-set isn't going to matter, but something like +0? I'm sure that would have some negative effects from a performance standpoint. +18 is still pretty aggressive, not as much as 0 obviously, but your 1.46" wider per side, or a total increase in track width by almost 3"!

GOAT off-road recommended +40 to +35 as the max off-set for use larger tires without affecting handling dynamics (or if just going to aftermarket wheels like I am). Ford doesn't go more than +30 on the Bronco's (their factory off-sets for OEM wheels range anywhere from +55 out to +30), seems the Ranger also fits most optimally within that range and I would expect that since the
Bronco's and Rangers use the same bearing size / size / pattern, that the factory bearing designs can safely accomodate wheel offsets from +55 to +30 based on what Ford offers for Bronco wheel options (Bronco Raptor excluded, that uses an entirely different bearing size / hub bore, which I think is same as F-150). I digress though, the point was, +55 to +30 seems to be kinda the safest range long-term as it's a factory range for the Rangers cousin, the Bronco, which is also part of the T6.2 platform.

More off set will also load the tire rods more as well. But as far as rubbing on the UCA? +18 is 1.5" wider per side, so unless you're putting tires that 3" wider than stock (which would stick out 1.5 in more on each side)...you should be fine

Scrub radius - Wikipedia

How Wheel Offset Affects Suspension Stress, Turning Radius, and Tire Wear - Lifted Trucks

Lots to consider. Extreme off-sets work for a while....until they start causing issues with tire wear, tire rods, bearings, hub-damage from jumps or hard use cases etc. Just be aware of all that's involved, that's all I'm saying.

 

[Sauce]

Im running +25 Method 707s with 275, 70 r 17 Wildpeaks. Originally I had no rubbing, but after doing some wiring work and bending the wheel lining, Im getting a little bit of rubbing in reverse (could trim or bend things to get rid of it). No UCA rubbing though. I think any lower offset is going to get super tight on the wheel liner, but guessing UCA should still be OK.

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