2.7 identical between Ranger and F-150?

[AlloyPony]

Is the engine in the Ranger literally identical to the one they drop in the F-150? No changes at all? It's got an excellent track record in F-150 so I'm thinking if I pick up a Ranger that's an upcharge that would be worth it.

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[Arsenall11]

Different tunning on the F150, but basically the same. I have a livinoise tune on this guy with 2.7, it’s a beast and fast!

 

[1996-to-2025]

Same engine. The F-150 is tuned to make 325 hp vs 315 hp in the Ranger. They both make 400 lb-ft of torque.

You can get a Ford Performance tune for the Ranger to up the numbers to 355 hp and 433 lb-ft.

It's a great engine.

 

[ryanO]

Same engine. The F-150 is tuned to make 325 hp vs 315 hp in the Ranger. They both make 400 lb-ft of torque.

You can get a Ford Performance tune for the Ranger to up the numbers to 355 hp and 433 lb-ft.

It's a great engine.

Have they released the tune for the 2025 2.7L yet? Ford Performance says that if you use the 2024 tune it'll void the warranty on a 2025.
I've got a 2025 with the 2.7L and love it!

 

[some_guy]

Have they released the tune for the 2025 2.7L yet? Ford Performance says that if you use the 2024 tune it'll void the warranty on a 2025.
I've got a 2025 with the 2.7L and love it!

There is a Ford factory warrantied 2.7t Procal tune on the Ford performance website. No?

 

[ryanO]

There is a Ford factory warrantied 2.7t Procal tune on the Ford performance website. No?

Yes, but it's only available for the 2024 not 2025.
Do we all kmow it's the same? Yes. But, Ford Performance won't authorize it for the 2025 engine so if you install it, it voids the warranty of a 2025.

 

[some_guy]

Yes, but it's only available for the 2024 not 2025.
Do we all kmow it's the same? Yes. But, Ford Performance won't authorize it for the 2025 engine so if you install it, it voids the warranty of a 2025.

Strange, maybe they are having issues getting it [re]certified through the California CARB board, like there is really any difference between the years. But California is a strange bureaucratic place.

 

[some_guy]

I wish the Ranger was offered with the 3.5t v6. I cant imagine why it wouldnt fit, the 3.5 is only 1" bigger in length and width, all other dimensions are less or about equal. But the 3.5t is part of the Cyclone engine family and the 3.0t is the Nano, maybe the mounts are drastically different. or something else, who knows.

It would be more fun to have 90% of peak torque at 1700 rpm of the 3.5t.

 

[AlloyPony]

Same engine. The F-150 is tuned to make 325 hp vs 315 hp in the Ranger. They both make 400 lb-ft of torque.

You can get a Ford Performance tune for the Ranger to up the numbers to 355 hp and 433 lb-ft.

It's a great engine.

Have they released the tune for the 2025 2.7L yet? Ford Performance says that if you use the 2024 tune it'll void the warranty on a 2025.
I've got a 2025 with the 2.7L and love it!

Not looking to tune one, I just want reliability. And from everything I've seen over the last 15 years, the 2.7L is the best "EcoBoost" engine Ford has released. It is almost universally praised, whereas ALL the other engines in the family have rampant complaints.

Looks like I can build an XLT with the 2.7 and the options I want for $45k. That's not bad at all.

 

[ryanO]

Not looking to tune one, I just want reliability. And from everything I've seen over the last 15 years, the 2.7L is the best "EcoBoost" engine Ford has released. It is almost universally praised, whereas ALL the other engines in the family have rampant complaints.

Looks like I can build an XLT with the 2.7 and the options I want for $45k. That's not bad at all.

I've had 2 3.5L engines and both were fabulous. Most people are simply regurgitating problems with the 3.5L soon after its birth (problems were to be expected).

 

[superj]

i had previously heard the 3.5 was the better motor ( a few years back) but i did some recent searching and it looks like the 2.7 is being put up as ford best motor, ever. the car mags all seem to think that and so do lots of ford forum members

 

[AlloyPony]

I've had 2 3.5L engines and both were fabulous. Most people are simply regurgitating problems with the 3.5L soon after its birth (problems were to be expected).

i had previously heard the 3.5 was the better motor ( a few years back) but i did some recent searching and it looks like the 2.7 is being put up as ford best motor, ever. the car mags all seem to think that and so do lots of ford forum members

Yeah it's not close. The 3.5L makes mechanics a LOT of money. I myself have had the misfortune of doing 14 hour timing jobs on them. They are trash, particularly the Gen 2 version from 2015-2018ish. My brother still has a Gen 1 3.5L and he works on it every year but it's still going. I think he's at 150k miles now or so. And I have a friend from high school who has been a Ford technician for 30 years now. He bought a F-150 and went with the 5.0. I asked him why and he said " I work on 3.5 Ecoboosts all day every day. I don't want to work on them at home too. "

The 2.3 has been pretty good. There were some oil pump issues, and blocks cracking between #2 and #3 cylinder, but overall that engine has been pretty good. I would not hesitate to buy a 2025+ version.

The 2.7 though....that engine seems great. There really are few complaints with it and I rarely see them in the shop. I think that's the way I will go if I order a Ranger.

 

[josephp732]

I have the 2.7l in my Ranger and love it.

Couple of things to keep in mind.
Ford wet-belt engines are extremely oil-spec sensitive, not just viscosity sensitive.
The 2.7L EcoBoost typically requires:
- Ford's WSS-M2C961-A1 spec for LSPI & belt protection
- The oil spec include belt durability testing with the exact elastomer Ford uses.

Wet belts rely on controlled oil chemistry.
Excess solvency or non-validated oils with high ester content can accelerate elastomer swelling or softening over long intervals. This is why Ford is unusually strict with specs on wet-belt engines.

Also, best to keep OCI's at ~5k miles.

 

[TurboRanger]

Strange, maybe they are having issues getting it [re]certified through the California CARB board, like there is really any difference between the years. But California is a strange bureaucratic place.

It's Comiefornia The most regulated and unregulated state

 

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