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I was too! Out here our summers are scorching hot and even with the ac blasting some days it does little to cool you off when your truck has been sitting at work all day in 112+ heat. I had posted a thread on 5G that Ford has filed a patten for liquid cooled seats. Who knows if/when they'll ever be available but they would be nice to have the option in the 6G.

https://www.ranger5g.com/forum/threads/ford-patent-filed-for-vehicle-seat-with-liquid-cooling.23445/
haha! I thought you were joking because the seats are already liquid cooled via my back sweat.
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Hi Dave,

No...these are 4P units and 6G parts are placed on line in limited numbers...builds comprise a very small number maybe 20 or so and held by the plant to resolve assembly issues and then shipped to Dearborn where the units are evaluated and debugged. Units are saleable but rarely does this happen. BTW 4P is Pre Production Product Proveout.

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Thanks Phil. I know when they were rolling out the Bronco they made a few test mules. Several were spotted here in AZ as they were testing up near the White Tank Mountain. A few members on B6G spotted them at a local hotel and got a few pics and tried getting info from the guys but no go. Those test mules were all crushed after they evaluated them, about 20 or so like these.
 
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Looks great! Now bring on the rest of NA configurations and engine choices (would love a hybrid option). I’m hopeful of a Lariat SuperCrew/longbed in a Tremor package.
 

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I thought the third brake light was going to be in the tailgate above the latch
 
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Looks great! Now bring on the rest of NA configurations and engine choices (would love a hybrid option). I’m hopeful of a Lariat SuperCrew/longbed in a Tremor package.
That is what I am wondering too.... are we going to get a hybrid option
 

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Ugh, I want to order one so bad lol… which has more cabin space, 4dr bronco or ranger raptor? (Have a rear facing car seat that takes a tooooon of space)
 

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I can’t wait for these! I don’t mind the wait and I am hoping to get my name on an order list. Looking forward to seeing the options available here in the US.
 
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If you look closely at the driver seat and compare it to production Ranger Raptors in Australia, it's clearly a cobbled together "rough draft" seat. Even the orange patch in the middle is smaller and lopsided here.
 
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I have a question? How do they still continue to produce the 5G and roll off these test 6G test mules? Don't they have to re-tool the whole line or is this something that's easily changed back and forth.
These are just test mules. They usually roll out a few test mules when a new gen hits the market. After several months of testing they'll tweak anything that's necessary and change what's needed. Production doesn't start until 7/10/23 and there's no order dates yet.
Thanks Phil. I know when they were rolling out the Bronco they made a few test mules. Several were spotted here in AZ as they were testing up near the White Tank Mountain. A few members on B6G spotted them at a local hotel and got a few pics and tried getting info from the guys but no go. Those test mules were all crushed after they evaluated them, about 20 or so like these.
Lets fucking go guys!!! I'm so amped to see this, even if they are test mules! I'm ready to give them my money.
I have to stress, these ARE NOT test mules. These trucks have not been test mules since 2020, as the first shots of them you saw back in 2021 were VPs or verification prototypes like this, which were first built in 2020 and first allowed to be publicly viewable in January 2021.

Ford Ranger 6th Gen 2024 Ranger Raptor rolling down MAP production line 📸 2023-ford-ranger-spied-7-


Ford Ranger 6th Gen 2024 Ranger Raptor rolling down MAP production line 📸 nger-raptor-testing-with-ford-bronco-warthog-9-



The only mules built for the P703/N were in P375/N sheetmetal. Like this Ranger Raptor Mule from October 2020 (courtesy of TFL)

Ford Ranger 6th Gen 2024 Ranger Raptor rolling down MAP production line 📸 2022-ford-ranger-raptor-bronco


It might be rather pedantic, but I must again highlight there's a stark difference between a mule and prototype with the final tophat and integrated components, which reflect the intended production design(s). It's only by maybe configuration and fit & finish in which they might differ from production Job 1s or Mass Production units, depending on the stage, since interior components can be 3D printed, until they get their final finish later on. M1s are the only notable mules most people see in spy shots, which use the old "tophat" and new underbody.

X0s and X1s are experimental vehicles not yet based on solidly defined production constructs for a given program, but to test future technologies envisioned for a nameplate down the road. You'll see those like 3-5 years before launch and they're pretty unnoticeable compared to M1s.

This seems to be a pattern because journalists write misleading text like this, so everyone ends up thinking they are actually called mules, when prototype is a better universal term for them, regardless of mule or VP or TT/PP build.

Hi Dave,

No...these are 4P units and 6G parts are placed on line in limited numbers...builds comprise a very small number maybe 20 or so and held by the plant to resolve assembly issues and then shipped to Dearborn where the units are evaluated and debugged. Units are saleable but rarely does this happen. BTW 4P is Pre Production Product Proveout.

best,
Phil
Definitely Phil! I'm not sure when you retired, 4P is now called PP (Pilot Production) and Tool Try Out (TTO) is more specifically now Tooling Trials (TT) are what we refer to units like these, built on the line to test assembly ahead of Job 1 or Mass Production 1. Earlier examples of the P703N were built in the pilot plant in Allen Park (going back to 2020), which I'm sure you're quite familiar with Phil. I don't believe we use 1PP and 2PP as descriptors anymore either.

This is the process to my knowledge today. Not sure when it changed from some past processes, but likely before my time and under Alan's tenure I'd figure at latest.

Prior to Tooling Trials, they were doing Launch Readiness and 2-stages of engineering completion, preliminary and final.

Thanks for pointing out how these are most definitely not mules, as the "mule" terminology is not interchangeable with prototype, seeing as test mules are also known as mechanical components test prototypes, when using off the shelf parts or previous generation bodies not representative of the production design approved under several stages prior to Final Data Judgement (FDJ) and verification prototype (VP). At Ford as you recall, we refer to test mules as M1s or even X0s, X1s, etc depending on level of testing purpose, which precede M1 stage.

There are numerous descriptors, but one thing is for certain, once it utilizes production sheet metal and have such high levels of finish, it's definitely not a mule. I keep seeing the constant referring to "mules" in a lot of places regarding spy shots on pre-launch vehicles with the final tophat and it's not correct, since they 99% match what will be built on the line eventually. Those are not a mule of any sort as you know. Thanks again.
 
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I have a question? How do they still continue to produce the 5G and roll off these test 6G test mules? Don't they have to re-tool the whole line or is this something that's easily changed back and forth.
The 6G has a lot more in common with the Bronco then the 5G.
Front frame clips are pretty similar and front track moved forward to match Bronco, rear clip section of Raptor is very similar to Bronco rear frame clip but different, so they use a lot of the same master control holes, just revised to suit different wheel bases etc.
BIW & Pickup locators all pretty much carryover from 5G.
So Plant will have already been configured by now to run 6G, 5G & Bronco more than likely, given Job 1 date. Just a case of turning off 5G parts and turning on 6G parts.
 
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If you look closely at the driver seat and compare it to production Ranger Raptors in Australia, it's clearly a cobbled together "rough draft" seat. Even the orange patch in the middle is smaller and lopsided here.
Not gonna say much, but I will point out not everything will match Australian spec. (Gotta go back to bed.)
 

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No rear bumper steps :( Glad to see them starting to come down the line!
No Raptor has the steps, the exhaust gets in the way and the rear of the bed behind the wheel does not extend as far downwards.
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