Ranger Raptor Tune COMING! - Conversation with Ford Performance at PRI

[UpInTheAir]

Agreed, in recent years.

Post above was asking about using the tool on multiple Ford vehicles.

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[Raptor535]

So only USA. Not europe.

 

[UpInTheAir]

What are restrictions like over there? While there has been a recent crack down on bigger aftermarket tuners in the States, I know Cobb Accessports are still a thing to let you load up new maps/tunes. You'd also likely lose your warranty, though, and that isn't something I personally want to risk even if I didn't have emissions testing that checks our ECUs for tunes.

 

[telenerd]

Ford tune on my 2.7 Bronco made a huge difference in butt dyno and shifting. Even improved shifting in 4low off-road. Can’t wait to try it on Ranger Raptor if I ever get build date🥹

 

[MAV]

Should be easy to do yourself. Likely just plug into OBDII and flash the new maps onto your ECU from the handheld programmer. That said, the Ford Performance website states you need a certified tech to install to keep your warranty. So it is probably going to cost another hour of shop time on top of the $825 for the tuner/calibrator.

• 3 year/36k mile warranty from new vehicle in-service when installed by a Ford dealer or ASE/Red Seal certified technician

The Explorer ST with the 3.0 already has this available, and it sees 405hp to 430hp and 430ft-lbs to 467ft-lbs. I would have expected quite a bit more. https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-9603-EX30

Keep in mind that is actually a reduction in the 5 year/50k mile powertrain warranty once you install the tune. I have an Explorer ST and was going to tune it until I realized that it would reduce my powertrain warranty to the same length as my bumper-to-bumper.

Still, a warranted tune is nice.

 

[Richard Conley]

Keep in mind that is actually a reduction in the 5 year/50k mile powertrain warranty once you install the tune. I have an Explorer ST and was going to tune it until I realized that it would reduce my powertrain warranty to the same length as my bumper-to-bumper.

Still, a warranted tune is nice.

To clarify from my contact in Ford Performance, bottom line is that non-tune caused power train issues are still covered:
"The tune does not reduce the factory Powertrain Warranty of any vehicle it is installed on. However please keep in mind that the Ford Performance Limited warranty is only for 3 years/ 36,000 miles from the warranty start date of the vehicle (when installed and registered as directed).

What this means is if there is an issue with a powertrain component that is directly caused by our Ford Performance tune, that will be covered for 3 years / 36,000 miles from the warranty start date of the vehicle. If there is a powertrain issue outside of that 3 year/ 36,000 mile period and is found to have been caused by the tune, that issue would then be the owner’s responsibility.

 

[MAV]

What this means is if there is an issue with a powertrain component that is directly caused by our Ford Performance tune, that will be covered for 3 years / 36,000 miles from the warranty start date of the vehicle. If there is a powertrain issue outside of that 3 year/ 36,000 mile period and is found to have been caused by the tune, that issue would then be the owner’s responsibility.

Thanks for the clarification, but I'm not seeing how that doesn't reduce the factory 5 yr/100k powertrain warranty. If I have 5/100 before the tune is installed, then I install the tune, and then "outside of that 3 year/ 36,000 mile period " anything that "is found to have been caused by the tune" is "the owner's responsibility", then how have I not lost the remaining 2 years of powertrain warranty?

And don't think for a second that when I have a transmission issue (for example, the input shaft breaks), Ford wouldn't blame the tune. It would be up to me to prove that it was something other than the tune that caused the issue. Ford has the luxury of a litany of Ford mechanics, working for Ford dealers, and a bunch of Ford corporate lawyers that can all "prove" that the tune caused my transmission issues.

All I have is a buddy that owns a transmission shop over by the railroad tracks that says the input shaft had a flaw in it from the factory.

 

[Richard Conley]

Thanks for the clarification, but I'm not seeing how that doesn't reduce the factory 5 yr/100k powertrain warranty. If I have 5/100 before the tune is installed, then I install the tune, and then "outside of that 3 year/ 36,000 mile period " anything that "is found to have been caused by the tune" is "the owner's responsibility", then how have I not lost the remaining 2 years of powertrain warranty?

And don't think for a second that when I have a transmission issue (for example, the input shaft breaks), Ford wouldn't blame the tune. It would be up to me to prove that it was something other than the tune that caused the issue. Ford has the luxury of a litany of Ford mechanics, working for Ford dealers, and a bunch of Ford corporate lawyers that can all "prove" that the tune caused my transmission issues.

All I have is a buddy that owns a transmission shop over by the railroad tracks that says the input shaft had a flaw in it from the factory.

I guess you'd then have to assume all power train failures would or could be somehow traced to the tune. My understanding is that whatever power train warranty is left after the 3 years on the tune is still valid. I'm can't comment on which failures could be traced to the tune, and a lot would depend on your relationship with your dealer but I can easily see your point.

 

[SoCalMike]

Well it's finally here and I should have mine next week, I just need to find a place to install it.

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