Thanks for the tip! My wife is typically my navigator too, but she loves this truck so much I feel we are probably going to be taking turns driving it out there. I think she has driven it more than I have so far.
Hey brother... i'm doing my 7 month 7500 miles FP tune update video on youtube and would love to be able to read this quote in the video. is that cool?I just picked up my 2024 Ranger Raptor today. I test drove a new 2025 but decided to check out this used 2024 because I really wanted the green. Inadvertently, what I ended up doing was a test of the Ford Performance tune. I have always owned high performance vehicles, since I was a teenager and have a pretty dialed-in butt dyno. For context, my current other vehicle is a 2017 Cadillac ATS-V, with numerous mods, that currently pushes around 600hp and runs mid-10's in the 1/4. Anyway, during the test drive, I noticed that this one felt substantially quicker than the new one. It was so noticeable, that my wife even commented on the difference between this one and the brand new 2025. I asked the salesman if this one had been modified in any way, and he handed me the Ford Performance box with the tuner in it. I drove the two trucks about an hour apart, and I can tell you, that I would highly recommend the tune, it makes a BIG difference across the board!!
fantastic insight and i agree with you 100%. i had the same thoughts about the 10R60 vs 10R80 transmission. My final thought that made me pull the trigger is that even with the increased torque, i dont plan to tow anything and it is way less stress to pull the empty truck down the road with 80 more FTLB of torque than it would be to pull a 4500 lb trailer up a hill with the stock power. maybe not a fair comparison but it made sense in my head. I think you nailed all of the things to consider in your post and everyone should read it before pulling the trigger on the tune if they are up in the air and not sure about it!
I know there's some confusion about Ford Performance limited warranty, just wanted to clear this up:
1. Does not invalidate your factory 36k / 3-year warranty when installed by an ASE certified tech.
2. Does not affect any extended warranties either UNLESS it is deemed that the performance modification was the cause.
Therein lies the rub. If your past that 3yr / 36k and your torque converter fails or the torque lock clutch plates start slipping, there is a very real possibility that you're footing the bill because the dealer can deem such failure due to the pro-Cal tune since the torque output is much higher.
So, there is some risk there. It will be interesting to see what happens if there is a transmission failure at say 55k miles, will they blame the pro-cal tune? How about 90k for someone that has an extended powertrain warranty?
That remains to be seen. Although I will say that back when I had my 2016 S550 GT PP with a FP Stage 2 Power Pack, on the mustang 6g forums we did not see any warranty denials, but most of those were within the 36k window, not after. And they were almost always engine related, not drive train.
The language absolutely leaves an "out" for Ford to deny warranty after the 3yr / 36k new vehicle warranty (covers EVERYTHING), so the factory powertrain warranty is 5yr / 60k that could be voided. I'm guessing the situation they are considering is that if Ford Performance causes a large amount of failures due to an oversight in testing (unintended consequences) and it occurs due to added stress of pushing performance limits, say at 75k, most pro-cal tuned RR's start seeing converter slip, they have an "out" to avoid a massive loss due to warranty claims of thousands of vehicles vs. the one or two that grenade early on due to a factory defect that manifest (not related to the FP mods).
If it's just a small sprinkle of a few customers here or there, they may honor them to keep the customer base happy so long as their cost is within an acceptable window even past that 36k, but what about after that? The language is undeniable, they DO have an out. Just some food for thought, there IS added risk.
The added torque WILL shorten the life of the transmission, period. The question we all have is.... how much? Also consider that the RR that completed the Baja 1000 (aside from its safety / weight reduction / durability mods), used a factory tuned 3.0L and 10R60, it used the factory fox live valve shocks / suspension geometry but with a modified calibration for the shocks that was race specific.
The Baja 1000 isn't about just going fast, it's even more so about doing with durability in mind as the brutal terrain will cause failures for anything not well designed to hand the abuse.
They did NOT run the FP Cal, so we might ask, would that 10R60 have survive that race with the added torque? Maybe, maybe not! I have zero doubt that Ford Performance pro-cal is well within the mechanical limits of the 3.0L, had the RR come with a 10R80 I'd be all for it, but it didn't....it has the 10R60 whose clutch packs that make up the torque lock have a lower rating.
I'm not trying to sway people one way or another, I've had Ford Performance cals on past vehicles (2016 Mustang GT PP, with Stage 2 Power Pack installed by dealer). Just trying to help people really understand the limits of the warranty and the possible risks.
Absolutely! The only reason I posted it was to spread the word for those that were considering it and wanted more examples of real-world experience with it. I am always happy to contribute to good information in any form.
I had mine installed when I took it back in for window tint and a paint scratch. They did it in a half a day, but it seemed like a bit of a process. I think they said they had to enter my vehicle information and then download a zipped file from the interwebs, then install it. But yes, if you had an appointment they can definitely do it in a few hours easy.
Reason number 99 why you should just install it yourself…
That is a good point, and we do know that the standard trim level rangers have the 10R60 as well for the 2nd generation (1st gens did have the 10R80 since the 10R60 was still in development). The standard ranger can tow 7,500 using the same transmission.
My Fault, I probably wasn’t clear. There was no incompetence or anything nefarious going on at my Ford dealership. They did the tint, scratch repair, and the FP tune in four hours after I dropped it off. I was not the only customer in the service bay that day. Even if it takes 40 minutes, service departments aren’t Domino’s Pizza and have a schedule to work within… full stop?
