Should we just get a Tacoma?

[richman555]

The '24 Tacoma has a very bold styling based on its current look. If a Transformer was a midsize pickup truck, it would be a '24 Tacoma. I always feel the front end (nose) is too pronounced and yes I know the chin spoiler can be removed. The interior with all of its exposed vents looks good but I have doubts about its overall comfort. The elephant in the room.... is price. Can I get what I want in a Tacoma at a reasonable price? Totally unknown at this point. My younger self would really like the Tacoma.

I like the updated Ranger interior and the 12 inch vertical display and it is really nice. The interior looks well put together and the seats look comfortable. The styling is updated to be a little bit more boxy and more like the F150 and Maverick which isn't a bad thing. Not thrilled that the XLT has to use a key in 2024 for ignition (come on Ford it's a no brainer). But my older self (now at 51) likes a bit of comfort and a nice boxy looking pickup truck and I don't want to spend well above 50k. Oh and what about that 2.7L 6cyl Ecoboost? When can I get it and how much will it cost?

Lastly, not forgetting about Chevrolet and Dodge. Chevy Colorado really looks nice to me and still could be an option. The styling actually rivals the Tacoma which is saying something. The interior is the least snazzy of the bunch but is sporty and adequate and the infotainment screen is reasonably sized. If I was more of an off-roader, I think the trail boss is a really good value. Engine power seems well good enough as well.

And Dodge... I wish you had something to offer in a midsize as I would definitely consider it. I often seen mockups of Dodge pickups which look very good, but alas.

So I really could go for any of these trucks. The Tacomas price is a big key to the puzzle for me. If they are at all overly pricey, then I am out. The Ford Ranger is a solid contender with Chevrolet nipping at its heals. And Dodge, please don't wait to do something. Lastly, how my dealers treat me will matter. If I go to the Ford dealer and get much hassle or markup, my Chevy dealer may be more willing to work with me on a Colorado.

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[Snkrjeff020]

The '24 Tacoma has a very bold styling based on its current look. If a Transformer was a midsize pickup truck, it would be a '24 Tacoma. I always feel the front end (nose) is too pronounced and yes I know the chin spoiler can be removed. The interior with all of its exposed vents looks good but I have doubts about its overall comfort. The elephant in the room.... is price. Can I get what I want in a Tacoma at a reasonable price? Totally unknown at this point. My younger self would really like the Tacoma.

I like the updated Ranger interior and the 12 inch vertical display and it is really nice. The interior looks well put together and the seats look comfortable. The styling is updated to be a little bit more boxy and more like the F150 and Maverick which isn't a bad thing. Not thrilled that the XLT has to use a key in 2024 for ignition (come on Ford it's a no brainer). But my older self (now at 51) likes a bit of comfort and a nice boxy looking pickup truck and I don't want to spend well above 50k. Oh and what about that 2.7L 6cyl Ecoboost? When can I get it and how much will it cost?

Lastly, not forgetting about Chevrolet and Dodge. Chevy Colorado really looks nice to me and still could be an option. The styling actually rivals the Tacoma which is saying something. The interior is the least snazzy of the bunch but is sporty and adequate and the infotainment screen is reasonably sized. If I was more of an off-roader, I think the trail boss is a really good value. Engine power seems well good enough as well.

And Dodge... I wish you had something to offer in a midsize as I would definitely consider it. I often seen mockups of Dodge pickups which look very good, but alas.

So I really could go for any of these trucks. The Tacomas price is a big key to the puzzle for me. If they are at all overly pricey, then I am out. The Ford Ranger is a solid contender with Chevrolet nipping at its heals. And Dodge, please don't wait to do something. Lastly, how my dealers treat me will matter. If I go to the Ford dealer and get much hassle or markup, my Chevy dealer may be more willing to work with me on a Colorado.

I pretty much agree with this overall assessment.

I pretty much prefer the Ranger in every category against the competition, but the fact that all the major competition has their Trucks out before them is crazy (Tacoma may very well beat them to mass production).

 

[RRanger444]

I realize people have their favorite brand and products but so many of these comments can only be attributed to coping at minimum or lying.

1. price. Price isn’t out for the 2024. Someone said the old gen 2023 was 10-15k more than they could find a comparable truck? This is hilariously untrue

2. Price again. Did…. You not all see the massive increase in 6g ranger prices?

3. seating position. You haven’t sit in the new one…

4. driving… you haven’t driven the new one…

5. “It’s almost a full size”. I’m not even kidding this is flat out hilarious. the old gen is the smallest midsize by far.

6. I could continue but…

7. you know what? I will. Someone said rangers will be out before the new Tacoma and not to worry about the UAW strike. Huh? The new Tacoma hits lots in December…

8. “you can’t order! You’ll never get one!” Took me 3 weeks to find a 2023 3k under msrp that I’m driving until gen 4. I had a Ford order in for a maverick that took over 2 years. You tell me which is better again

let’s all stop making things up

 

[RRanger444]

This thread is hysterical.

definitely hysterical that ppl are coping

 

[Wayfaring Ranger]

7. you know what? I will. Someone said rangers will be out before the new Tacoma and not to worry about the UAW strike. Huh? The new Tacoma hits lots in December…

No, that's not what I said. And it's brave to think there won't be any delays or hiccups for Toyota releasing this model. Every manu is facing issues and it's odd to think Toyota will be any different.

 

[RRanger444]

No, that's not what I said. And it's brave to think there won't be any delays or hiccups for Toyota releasing this model. Every manu is facing issues and it's odd to think Toyota will be any different.

I didn’t name anyone. Many have said as such in this thread.

it’s even more odd to pretend that rangers will hit lots BEFORE the Tacoma than it is to claim Toyota won’t be affected.

im not sure how you can even claim that it won’t be any different for Toyota. Affected? Yes. Worse or equal to a company who has to actually to deal with the UAW? No lol

also, I’m not sure why ppl are pretending only trucks are affected? Is toyota not building vehicles right now? Don’t they need to source parts right now? Can you point to any evidence of the impact the strike has had on current toyota production?

 

[Wayfaring Ranger]

I didn’t name anyone. Many have said as such in this thread.

it’s even more odd to pretend that rangers will hit lots BEFORE the Tacoma than it is to claim Toyota won’t be affected.

im not sure how you can even claim that it won’t be any different for Toyota. Affected? Yes. Worse or equal to a company who has to actually to deal with the UAW? No lol

GM wasn't dealing with UAW when they released the canyon & colorado back in early spring, but they still faced significant delays from everything else that has been going on for the last 3 years. there are still a lot of risks even ignoring the entire UAW debacle.

I'm not saying there won't be a few tacomas in consumers hands by december or january, but i think they are going to be difficult to get for a while. odds are the UAW strike will conclude and the scheduled rangers will start being delivered sooner than Toyota can get much done without a completely seamless truck release.

 

[jdlapointe]

I realize people have their favorite brand and products but so many of these comments can only be attributed to coping at minimum or lying.

1. price. Price isn’t out for the 2024. Someone said the old gen 2023 was 10-15k more than they could find a comparable truck? This is hilariously untrue

2. Price again. Did…. You not all see the massive increase in 6g ranger prices?

3. seating position. You haven’t sit in the new one…

4. driving… you haven’t driven the new one…

5. “It’s almost a full size”. I’m not even kidding this is flat out hilarious. the old gen is the smallest midsize by far.

6. I could continue but…

7. you know what? I will. Someone said rangers will be out before the new Tacoma and not to worry about the UAW strike. Huh? The new Tacoma hits lots in December…

8. “you can’t order! You’ll never get one!” Took me 3 weeks to find a 2023 3k under msrp that I’m driving until gen 4. I had a Ford order in for a maverick that took over 2 years. You tell me which is better again

let’s all stop making things up

The old gen is not the smallest by far. Take your own advice

Apparently you don't know that only non hybrid Tacoma's are the only ones hitting lots in December, which is still quite a few weeks out. You just assume (pretend) the strike will not end until after October?

 

[RRanger444]

GM wasn't dealing with UAW when they released the canyon & colorado back in early spring, but they still faced significant delays from everything else that has been going on for the last 3 years. there are still a lot of risks even ignoring the entire UAW debacle.

I'm not saying there won't be a few tacomas in consumers hands by december or january, but i think they are going to be difficult to get for a while. odds are the UAW strike will conclude and the scheduled rangers will start being delivered sooner than Toyota can get much done without a completely seamless truck release.

so now you’re on a different topic? What does Covid have to do with the uaw? That affected everyone much more equally.

Again, it’s a very simple question. I never said they wouldn’t be affected at all. I said they’d be affected much less.

huh? How do you even know when they will hit lots when everything is currently at a standstill?

“I can definitely predict that Toyota Tacoma won’t hit lots in December due to the strikes, but I can also definitely predict that the strike will be over and the ranger will hit lots first” - you

like dude.. how can you even make this claim?

 

[RRanger444]

The old gen is not the smallest by far. Take your own advice

Apparently you don't know that only non hybrid Tacoma's are the only ones hitting lots in December, which is still quite a few weeks out. You just assume (pretend) the strike will not end until after October?

I do know that… what does that have to do with them hitting lots in December? Can you point to where I said the hybrid is hitting in December? Can you explain how your comment in anyway negates what I said about the Tacoma probably hitting lots first due to the strike? Where did I say both models?

huh? The ranger and Colorado are wider. The only taco that is longer than either are long beds and that’s because Ford and Chevy don’t offer long beds

even if I was being hyperbolic, the claim that the Tacoma “might as well be a full size” is hilarious!

 

[Wayfaring Ranger]

so now you’re on a different topic? What does Covid have to do with the uaw? That affected everyone much more equally.

....which is literally my point. There are delays that are still happening from the consequences of shutting down the economy that effect all makes. You're acting like toyota is immune to these market forces and will have a seamless truck launch. I'm saying, from evidence over the last year, that this is unlikely and toyota will have their own set of delays beyond december.

huh? How do you even know when they will hit lots when everything is currently at a standstill?

because it's a guess, the same way you're spouting off stuff as a guess.

the UAW strike probably isn't going to last that long and there are still rangers scheduled to be built before december. maybe wait until they push all build dates back to january before you start claiming that the taco will be out before the ranger.

“I can definitely predict that Toyota Tacoma won’t hit lots in December due to the strikes, but I can also definitely predict that the strike will be over and the ranger will hit lots first” - you

like dude.. how can you even make this claim?

this literally isn't what i said, but it's telling you have to strawman to create something to argue against. did you just wake up today looking to argue with people on a ford ranger forum? strange energy coming from your posts today. maybe take a breather and enjoy the fall weather.

 

[jdlapointe]

I do know that… what does that have to do with them hitting lots in December? Can you point to where I said the hybrid is hitting in December? Can you explain how your comment in anyway negates what I said about the Tacoma probably hitting lots first due to the strike? Where did I say both models?

huh? The ranger and Colorado are wider. The only taco that is longer than either are long beds and that’s because Ford and Chevy don’t offer long beds

even if I was being hyperbolic, the claim that the Tacoma “might as well be a full size” is hilarious!

For the first part, I am saying you are assuming Tacoma's will be available before the ranger purely on speculation, which in another post you ridiculed, and said stick to facts. I only pointed out that it wasn't a full launch to drive the point home.

For the second part,

I had to reread your original post, then read the whole thread to find where you were quoting from. I thought you were talking about the ranger, so my mistake.

That said, I read that persons post as the Tacoma is a mid size truck that felt like a full size going down the road. So not a positive, but a negative. (Think rides like a bread truck). Maybe that is just me...

 

[RRanger444]

....which is literally my point. There are delays that are still happening from the consequences of shutting down the economy that effect all makes. You're acting like toyota is immune to these market forces and will have a seamless truck launch. I'm saying, from evidence over the last year, that this is unlikely and toyota will have their own set of delays beyond december.



because it's a guess, the same way you're spouting off stuff as a guess.

the UAW strike probably isn't going to last that long and there are still rangers scheduled to be built before december. maybe wait until they push all build dates back to january before you start claiming that the taco will be out before the ranger.



this literally isn't what i said, but it's telling you have to strawman to create something to argue against. did you just wake up today looking to argue with people on a ford ranger forum? strange energy coming from your posts today. maybe take a breather and enjoy the fall weather.

Dude..

1. These delays from Covid would have happened to both ford and Toyota whether uaw was on strike or not yes? That is independent from what we are even talking about… I am asking you if you think BOTH TOYOTA AND FORD ARE EQUALLY AFFECTED BY THE UAW. The answer is no and idk why this is some insane statement to make?

2. Yes you didn’t say those exact words but that’s exactly what you’re implying and you just did it again. You’re telling me it’s wrong for me to predict the taco will hit lots before the ranger because it will be less affected by the strike WHILE YOU claim to know the strike will end soon enough for the ranger to hit first… you don’t see ANY irony in that?

 

[RRanger444]

For the first part, I am saying you are assuming Tacoma's will be available before the ranger purely on speculation, which in another post you ridiculed, and said stick to facts. I only pointed out that it wasn't a full launch to drive the point home.

For the second part,

I had to reread your original post, then read the whole thread to find where you were quoting from. I thought you were talking about the ranger, so my mistake.

That said, I read that persons post as the Tacoma is a mid size truck that felt like a full size going down the road. So not a positive, but a negative. (Think rides like a bread truck). Maybe that is just me...

The ford ranger isn’t a full launch then I guess because the 2.7 isn’t ready… right?

so by your own logic the ranger won’t launch until spring? Come on dude lol the second job engines are irrelevant to the original point

 

[jdlapointe]

The ford ranger isn’t a full launch then I guess because the 2.7 isn’t ready… right?

so by your own logic the ranger won’t launch until spring? Come on dude lol the second job engines are irrelevant to the original point

No, the top 2 Tacoma trims are only available with the 2.4L I-MAX. TRD PRO and Trailhunter. This has been known for a long time. So, by my logic it is not the same thing.

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