is the 2.3L enough or should you opt for the 2.7:??? I fear the cam phaser issues on the 2.7!!!!!

[Rangerjimm]

Your worries about the 2.7 are unrealistic. It's been used in millions of vehicles since 2015.
I was worried about it, not due to cam phasers, but the oil pump being driven by a belt, but that too is a small issue.
I've also heard that cam phaser noise was mostly on cold start up, and quite down once oil pressure stabilizes. Don't know how true that is.

Go on the Bronco forum where they have been using the 2.7 for quite a few years now and search Cam Phasers. Many many trucks with under 5000 miles having the engines taken out for repair as late as 2024. His worries are real as are mine.

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[danmoochie]

Go on the Bronco forum where they have been using the 2.7 for quite a few years now and search Cam Phasers. Many many trucks with under 5000 miles having the engines taken out for repair as late as 2024. His worries are real as are mine.

Correct. Search both Ranger and Bronco site. Then Explorer ST and search cam phaser. Heck Google it. It's a bigger concern than you think. Enough that I sold my RR with 2k miles. Got out while I could still get top dollar. Didn't want to deal with a problem to which Fords fix was putting the same cam phasers in. Come on. Fix the problem.

 

[Plasmech]

No cams on 2.3

The 2.3 does not have cams?

 

[Rangerjimm]

The 2.3 does not have cams?

It obviously has cams but a much different design phaser that have been zero problems.

 

[Plasmech]

Is there a chance that the cam phaser issue has been addressed on the 2.7 and 3.0 model year 2025 trucks but we don't know it yet?

 

[BriSco]

Is there a chance that the cam phaser issue has been addressed on the 2.7 and 3.0 model year 2025 trucks but we don't know it yet?

Yes there is a chance, but some just have to have shit to worry about.

 

[Plasmech]

Yes there is a chance, but some just have to have shit to worry about.

To be fair, I understand people not wanting to drop $60k on a mid-size truck knowing that they might have to tear the engine down only a few short years (if that) into its life.

 

[Alaska_Wolf]

I had a 2.7L in my 2018 F 150, I literally despised that engine. The 2.3L in my 2023 Ranger though is a totally different horse. Is it enough? Absolutely! There is a reason that Dallara features the Ford 2.3L Ecoboost I-4 in their Stradale supercar, they're pushing 395 horsepower and 369 pound-feet of torque with that little beast. https://fordauthority.com/2020/11/d...percar-with-a-ford-2-3l-ecoboost-for-a-heart/ Its also well on the road to being regarded as one of the all time best ever Ford engines.

So yeah, the little 2.3L is way more than enough in the Ranger. If you really want some excitement, get the Ford performance tune, or really wake up the beast with a Livernois tune.

 

[Plasmech]

I had a 2.7L in my 2018 F 150, I literally despised that engine. The 2.3L in my 2023 Ranger though is a totally different horse. Is it enough? Absolutely! There is a reason that Dallara features the Ford 2.3L Ecoboost I-4 in their Stradale supercar, they're pushing 395 horsepower and 369 pound-feet of torque with that little beast. https://fordauthority.com/2020/11/d...percar-with-a-ford-2-3l-ecoboost-for-a-heart/ Its also well on the road to being regarded as one of the all time best ever Ford engines.

So yeah, the little 2.3L is way more than enough in the Ranger. If you really want some excitement, get the Ford performance tune, or really wake up the beast with a Livernois tune.

What, specifically, did you not like about the 2.7?

Thanks.

 

[Morningpride]

2.7L has a wet timing belt. Stay away from that design, unless you're looking forward to your engine killing itself from inside.

 

[Jason B]

2.7L has a wet timing belt. Stay away from that design, unless you're looking forward to your engine killing itself from inside.

And since the introduction of the 2.7 in 2018, how many have had those failures?

 

[Plasmech]

2.7L has a wet timing belt. Stay away from that design, unless you're looking forward to your engine killing itself from inside.

Is the oil-immersed belt concept one of those things that's so idiotic that it's brilliant? I must be missing something (I'm being serious).

 

[hand-filer]

2.7L has a wet timing belt. Stay away from that design, unless you're looking forward to your engine killing itself from inside.

I've heard a lot of people complaining about it but no one has offered any proof that they are failing or will fail prematurely.
Why did Ford switch to this system on the 2.7 and 5.0 as well as GM on the Duramax?
What do you know that the engineers don't?

 

[Morningpride]

I worked for Ford for several years. From what I understand, it was strictly a cost measure. Most folks don’t keep their vehicles over 100,000 miles. As long as they don’t blow up under warranty, the manufacturer doesn’t care. Anyone who thinks that it’s ok to use a rubber belt in a high torque situation, then lubricate it with oil (which causes rubber to degrade) because it’s cheaper to produce, clearly is not looking for longevity

 

[Morningpride]

And since the introduction of the 2.7 in 2018, how many have had those failures?

Just do a google search

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