Big Brother monitoring in 2027 - Reason to buy now [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

[Dr. TJG DVM]

As predicted….

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a...aired-driving-detection-technology-not-ready/

Not ready for prime time, but not saying it’s not going to continue to be pursued. AI overall fits that description as well. It will likely come to pass, and in the meantime they will spend millions and millions on development.

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[av8r]

Just assume the worst. They're not starting there, but that is the goal. Always.

 

[av8r]

Not ready for prime time, but not saying it’s not going to continue to be pursued. AI overall fits that description as well. It will like one to pass, and in the meantime they will spend millions and millions on development.

Tesla has been using this. Comma has been using this. It works fine.

 

[Ron Quixote]

Sure, they want this for everyone eventually and screw that.

But people across a bunch of automotive forums were screaming

BuY a 2026 NoW bEcAuSe AlL 2027 mOdElS wILl HaVe Ai AnD iNtErIoR cAmErAs!!!!

The threat is real, but the panic was unjustified, and only ever based on a single Yahoo! News article. This forum didn’t lose its mind, but several others did.

 

[Jason B]

More fear mongering.
If you are worried about Big Brother:

don't buy a recent car
don't use a cell phone
get off the internet

But it doesn't matter. By 2010, 2012, 2020, 2025, 2030 will be 10 feet under water.

 

[fordc51]

Also another reason for already
Overpriced vehicles to be even higher. Also, when you have a problem related yo this, what at our dealerships will anything about it?

 

[fordc51]

Excuse typos. Thats who. Not what.

 

[Jason B]

Also another reason for already
Overpriced vehicles to be even higher. Also, when you have a problem related yo this, what at our dealerships will anything about it?

If it is mandated to have those features, they will have no choice but to make repairs.

 

[Ron Quixote]

From the article:

NHTSA officials said the passive anti-drunk driving technology isn't ready yet. ​

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"Currently, detection technology around the legal limit continues to have an error rate that would be unacceptably high ... while NHTSA has not made a final determination about the necessary level of accuracy, even a 99.9 percent detection accuracy level could result in millions to tens of millions of instances each year where the technology would incorrectly prevent or limit drivers from operating their vehicles, or fail to prevent or limit impaired drivers from doing so," the report reads. "At this time, NHTSA is not aware of any technology that claims to achieve anywhere close to [the needed] level of accuracy."​

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The report goes on to say that while the technology is worth investing in over the long term, federal regulators aren't aware of any version with anywhere close to this level of accuracy in minimizing false positives and false negatives. It's not just the opinion of federal regulators that the technology is behind, either; the report says testing data shows that the current advanced impaired-driving prevention technology doesn't meet the "precision, speed, and reliability" required by the act.​

 

[fordc51]

At some point. Vehicles get so complex, the average service tech doesnt have the skill set. I worked on Unix operating systems for 25 yrs. If the problem went over my head. It went to engineering. If it was a bug. I have been the one guy fix all before, even if it was way outside my normal skill set. Service techs in same situation at some point.

 

[kayakss]

Glad to see that this technology is not ready for prime time............yet!

We already do not fully understand just what data these car companies are sharing with outside companies. GM has already gotten in hot water over what they shared/sold to other companies with the information that "On-Star" was collecting. Insurance companies raised rates on drivers based on the data and in some cases reading the data wrong.

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/new...ected-sold-geolocation-data-without-consumers

 

[Jason B]

At some point. Vehicles get so complex, the average service tech doesnt have the skill set. I worked on Unix operating systems for 25 yrs. If the problem went over my head. It went to engineering. If it was a bug. I have been the one guy fix all before, even if it was way outside my normal skill set. Service techs in same situation at some point.

That has happened years ago. Most techs can't diagnose problems unless a code is showing.

And as for implementing this 'safety feature', government bureaucracy moves very slowly.
Remember Real ID was mandated in 2005 but hadn't been enforced until 2025.

 

[RonEee]

This was just a little gift from Congress included in the infrastructures investment and jobs act of 2021.. Because new technology isn't distracting enough with all its messages, bells, vibrating steering wheels, pumping the brakes, flashing lights and miscellaneous warnings,

Maybe if you yawn while you're driving you'll get a nice little electric shock. Bad human, bad. We're watching you.

 

[ryanO]

Part of why I bought a 2026. This is insane thst they can do this.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/federal-surveillance-tech-becomes-mandatory-161321992.html

If we would deal with drunk drivers the right way immediately, this wouldn't be a thing.
If you're caught driving under the influence, its an immediate 1 year license suspension and if its violated, an immediate 6 month jail sentence.
If you cause a wreck while driving intoxicated, its a mandatory 2 year jail sentence and if someone is killed in that wreck a mandatory, 20 year minimum PRISON sentence.
Those would be federal laws that no state can overturn and no judge can limit. There's no ability to lawyer ones way out. Its simply based on fact and punishment is handed out within 48 hours for immediate implementation.

 

[Satex]

If we would deal with drunk drivers the right way immediately, this wouldn't be a thing.
If you're caught driving under the influence, its an immediate 1 year license suspension and if its violated, an immediate 6 month jail sentence.
If you cause a wreck while driving intoxicated, its a mandatory 2 year jail sentence and if someone is killed in that wreck a mandatory, 20 year minimum PRISON sentence.
Those would be federal laws that no state can overturn and no judge can limit. There's no ability to lawyer ones way out. Its simply based on fact and punishment is handed out within 48 hours for immediate implementation.

We can't remove due process, and "lawyering" your way out is that due process.

However, once the case is decided, I completely agree about the degree and certainty of the punishment.

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