3.0L EB to be new base engine in '27 F-150

[HighDesertRanger]

Based on what I see only about 15% are the 2.7L since 2024.

Doing a search for available inventory, that’s probably a pretty good estimate.

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[Texasota]

Based on what I see only about 15% are the 2.7L since 2024.

That makes sense. The 2.3 is a very capable engine in the Ranger. It does everything I need and tows my 4000 lb boat effortlessly. Impressive MPGs at the same time.

From a trusted insider on BOF:

The reason for the change was that the 2.7 wasn’t going to clear some emission compliance requirement of some sort. They’ve been working on this change since 2023.

 

[Lion77]

I wonder if they had to implement a similar feature like on the 3.5L where you get a self-cleaning cycle of the emissions system particulate filter that incurs parasitic power loss. The 3.5L went from ~400 HP to ~382 HP. Maybe moving to the 3.0L off sets that loss so you get the same power as the 2.7L but can also incorporate the emissions requirement.

To be fair, Toyota's 3.5L TT V6 makes about the same power at around 389 HP, with similar torque, guessing they already planned for the particulate filter or didn't need it to meet requirements.

New Toyota Tundra Engine: 2nd Gen Vs. 3rd Gen | Ira Toyota of Hyannis

2026 Ford F-150 Loses Horsepower Due To New Particulate Filter

I'll bet my bottom dollar that's the reason for the move to the 3.0L. Asinine emissions requirements made by some bureaucrat who doesn't know the difference between his elbow from his a**hole, completely oblivious of what they are asking and without any proof it has any meaningful impact on anything...except costing us money and reliability.

 

[Phoenix5454]

I've been enjoying the 2.7 in my Ranger. Kind of sad to see it go in the F150 because I'm sure this is the beginning of all 2.7s just being some kind of 3.0 V6 anywhere you find a 2.7 now which I think is only the F150, Ranger and Bronco. Makes sense from a manufacturing cost sense but a Non Raptor Ranger with a detuned 3.0 V6 doesn't feel as "special" as having a 2.7 in a Ranger application... Thats just my opinion of course, and does seem like most non Raptor Rangers are sold with the 2.3 in NA. Im just hoping the non Raptor / ST versions of the 3.0 will feature port and direct injection as well as a full CGI block. We'll have to wait and see.

 

[superj]

So this is how they will force Americans to get electric vehicles. Make fuel and def so expensive that 95% of the people won't be able to afford to drive

 

[ryanO]

I wonder if they had to implement a similar feature like on the 3.5L where you get a self-cleaning cycle of the emissions system particulate filter that incurs parasitic power loss. The 3.5L went from ~400 HP to ~382 HP. Maybe moving to the 3.0L off sets that loss so you get the same power as the 2.7L but can also incorporate the emissions requirement.

To be fair, Toyota's 3.5L TT V6 makes about the same power at around 389 HP, with similar torque, guessing they already planned for the particulate filter or didn't need it to meet requirements.

New Toyota Tundra Engine: 2nd Gen Vs. 3rd Gen | Ira Toyota of Hyannis

2026 Ford F-150 Loses Horsepower Due To New Particulate Filter

I'll bet my bottom dollar that's the reason for the move to the 3.0L. Asinine emissions requirements made by some bureaucrat who doesn't know the difference between his elbow from his a**hole, completely oblivious of what they are asking and without any proof it has any meaningful impact on anything...except costing us money and reliability.

And yet the fools that live in your and my neighborhood vote for the politicians that push all th

So this is how they will force Americans to get electric vehicles. Make fuel and def so expensive that 95% of the people won't be able to afford to drive

Huh? I dont see that being the case. Fuel isnt even that expensive now.

 

[Texasota]

Huh? I dont see that being the case. Fuel isnt even that expensive now.

Correct. Even with the recent spikes in cost, gasoline is at historically low prices when adjusted for inflation. ICE vehicles will continue to be avaialable for many years. Likely decades.

 

[ryanO]

Correct. Even with the recent spikes in cost, gasoline is at historically low prices when adjusted for inflation. ICE vehicles will continue to be avaialable for many years. Likely decades.

I see so many people bitching about the cost of gas. If a $1 a gallon increase is of any real hardship, probably shouldn't be spending money on anything but basic necessities.

 

[Lion77]

That and alternative sources are being developed to replace OPEC which is now fractured. The US only gets 6% of its crude from that region anyway. One the biggest reserves is actually in Venezuela, right in our own back yard so to speak. Plus WE are producing more oil than any other nation at the moment (light crude). Over time it will go back down as new sources come online. UAE itself is already developing alternative transport routes.

I just drive my Mazda 3 a little more right now since it only needs 87 and gets 35-40 mpg and save the truck for things I WANT to do.

 

[specialist_k]

If I were ford, what I would offer in the future for engine options.

F150 engine options
-3.0L ecoboost (standard)
-5.0L coyote (option)
-3.5L powerboost hybrid (option)
-5.2L carnivore (Raptor only)

Ranger engine options
2.3L ecoboost (standard)
2.7L ecoboost in current gen (option)
3.0L ecoboost in next gen (option)
3.0L ecoboost H.O. (Raptor only)

5.0L coyote STX limited edition (I can dream lol)

Scrap the 2.7L and 3.5L as they are redundant.

*Edited*

 

[HighDesertRanger]

Ford scrapped the 3.5L option in the Explorers entirely a few years back. Just the 2.3 and 3.0 remain.

 

[Phoenix5454]

If I were ford, what I would offer in the future for engine options.

F150 engine options
-3.0L ecoboost (standard)
-5.0L coyote (option)
-3.5L powerboost hybrid (option)

Ranger engine options
2.3L ecoboost (standard)
2.7L ecoboost in current gen (option)
3.0L ecoboost in next gen (option)
3.0L ecoboost H.O. (Raptor only)

Scrap the 2.7L and 3.5L as they are redundant.

The powerboost is kind of awful from what I understand - its not very smooth because of the how the hybrid system deploys power.

Most likely the Ranger engine options will be:

2.3EB 3.0EB and 3.0EB HO for engine options in the future with that last being reserved for the Raptor

 

[specialist_k]

The powerboost is kind of awful from what I understand - its not very smooth because of the how the hybrid system deploys power.

Most likely the Ranger engine options will be:

2.3EB 3.0EB and 3.0EB HO for engine options in the future with that last being reserved for the Raptor

I watched a couple YouTube videos on the powerboost and I thought they liked it, but I have never driven one so I can't speak to that. I like the idea of it though. We agree on the ranger options.

 

[Mystic]

Ford scrapped the 3.5L option in the Explorers entirely a few years back. Just the 2.3 and 3.0 remain.

If I were ford, what I would offer in the future for engine options.

F150 engine options
-3.0L ecoboost (standard)
-5.0L coyote (option)
-3.5L powerboost hybrid (option)
-5.2L carnivore (Raptor only)

Ranger engine options
2.3L ecoboost (standard)
2.7L ecoboost in current gen (option)
3.0L ecoboost in next gen (option)
3.0L ecoboost H.O. (Raptor only)

5.0L coyote STX limited edition (I can dream lol)

Scrap the 2.7L and 3.5L as they are redundant.

*Edited*

I think this is exactly correct!

Reduces complexity & simplifies tooling on Ford's end.

 

[Mystic]

The powerboost is kind of awful from what I understand - its not very smooth because of the how the hybrid system deploys power.

Most likely the Ranger engine options will be:

2.3EB 3.0EB and 3.0EB HO for engine options in the future with that last being reserved for the Raptor

I've watched a couple YT reviews of it and it doesn't seem half bad, and the reviewers liked it. I've never driven one, but it seems appealing.

I've heard many people warn to stay away from the 2021-2022s though.

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