What is the priority for production on these stock orders?

[bking]

Having 5 allocations for their network of individual dealerships makes sense. You should be good

I think so too. This whole idea that each dealership gets 1 makes absolutely no sense to me... specially knowing that my regular smaller dealership got none (I've been promised their stock allocation for months, but they keep saying the system won't let them order it. Been doing business there for years and spent a lot of money, I doubt they are lying). Why would Ford give a small dealer 1 and a huge dealership the same allocation. Companies typically take care of their best customers, and make no mistake the dealers are their customers, not us.

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[bking]

I don’t want it to seem like I keep attacking what the dealer is telling you, but they can 100% customize the order to exactly the way you want it. At this stage nothing has been pulled in by Ford and they have only inserted orders that will be pulled in the future. Those orders aren’t locked in any way and multiple dealers I have talked to told me they can go back in and change what they have already submitted if I would commit to buying the vehicle with a deposit.

Again, I don’t want to seem like I’m picking here, but a lot of what they are saying isn’t adding up and don’t want you to get burnt. Seems like they want to order them they way they think will sell best on the lot instead of letting you build it the way you want.

I mean, it could be that they could've changed it. They asked me what colors I wanted, and I told them Silver or Black. They had a Black ordered so I didn't press. Could be they ordered what they thought would sell best and don't want to change that in case I flake out. Or they could be totally lying . I don't have much experience with this dealer except when we were looking for an Explorer for my Wife. They were the only dealership with stock not charging an ADM (about a year ago). She ended up with a Subaru Ascent so I never completed a transaction.

 

[BigDamnHeroes]

No orders will be pulled for production until they can actually sell and ship them. They don’t want a bunch of finished vehicles sitting in storage lots in Purgatory waiting for last approvals before they can ship to customers. Assigning VINs is way further down the road, like months, from happening and they won’t actually be “in the factory” able to go down the line until your Window Sticker with MPG numbers is posted.

Maverick production would like a word with you. Production started a full month before OKTB on EB, and even longer before Hybrid OKTB (granted, they did pause hybrid production when it didn't come in at the same time as EB originally..but they still made both before OKTB came in).. they won't ship from factory without OKTB..but there's nothing stopping them from building before it comes in.

 

[Snkrjeff020]

As it stands, it is definitely going to be odd when its 1800 regular Ranger orders and about 3000 Raptor stock orders lol.

 

[Ranger#5?]

Maverick production would like a word with you. Production started a full month before OKTB on EB, and even longer before Hybrid OKTB (granted, they did pause hybrid production when it didn't come in at the same time as EB originally..but they still made both before OKTB came in).. they won't ship from factory without OKTB..but there's nothing stopping them from building before it comes in.

I have a Maverick ECOboost and experienced the entire process from Reservations to order getting selected for production, then finally receiving my truck 10.5 months later. There were multiple delays to starting production, quality problems (remember the holes drilled into gas tanks), unplanned factory shutdowns, ever changing list of constraint items, recall holds, stop ships, and more. They have to at minimum have the EPA MPG testing completed before any official Window stickers with VINs could go live. Even then, you can sit in "Clean Unscheduled" status with Priority 2 set by regional team for MONTHS without any movement or updates. You can also sit at "in Production" status for weeks to months without actually being selected by the factory to go down the line. They can even move your status backwards to Clean Unscheduled from in Production if updated constraints prevent them from building your exact model and trim at any point. Once it is finally "Built" status it could wait at Hermosillo plant for weeks waiting to schedule the train ride to USA.

Ford has been under tremendous pressure to improve quality and quality checks before anything ships and has publicly said they won't rush things anymore as they tighten up the processes. AFAIK they haven't finished converting MAP for 6G production yet and they balance out the 2023 Ranger orders. Then they'll need a shutdown to finish the MY changeover and run some Quality Pilot runs down the line and tweak things. With only a reported ~1800 non-Raptor orders on the books so far, I don't see them necessarily rushing to begin full capacity production even after OKTB this time.

 

[BigDamnHeroes]

I have a Maverick ECOboost and experienced the entire process from Reservations to order getting selected for production, then finally receiving my truck 10.5 months later. There were multiple delays to starting production, quality problems (remember the holes drilled into gas tanks), unplanned factory shutdowns, ever changing list of constraint items, recall holds, stop ships, and more. They have to at minimum have the EPA MPG testing completed before any official Window stickers with VINs could go live. Even then, you can sit in "Clean Unscheduled" status with Priority 2 set by regional team for MONTHS without any movement or updates. You can also sit at "in Production" status for weeks to months without actually being selected by the factory to go down the line. They can even move your status backwards to Clean Unscheduled from in Production if updated constraints prevent them from building your exact model and trim at any point. Once it is finally "Built" status it could wait at Hermosillo plant for weeks waiting to schedule the train ride to USA.

Ford has been under tremendous pressure to improve quality and quality checks before anything ships and has publicly said they won't rush things anymore as they tighten up the processes. AFAIK they haven't finished converting MAP for 6G production yet and they balance out the 2023 Ranger orders. Then they'll need a shutdown to finish the MY changeover and run some Quality Pilot runs down the line and tweak things. With only a reported ~1800 non-Raptor orders on the books so far, I don't see them necessarily rushing to begin full capacity production even after OKTB this time.

There were window stickers for early production Mavericks that did not have EPA numbers on them.. Production for both EB/Hybrid ran for at least a month before OKTB came in... Window Stickers were just re-generated with EPA numbers once available. For example:
https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...r-generated-but-not-showing-epa-mpg-yet.2138/

So, OKTB/EPA numbers are NOT a requirement (or, at least, were not when the Mavericks started.. obviously, things could have changed in the interim) for generating VINs/Window Stickers, or starting production..

But, that said.. with only 1800 retail orders so far.. I don't think it really matters if they start before or after OKTB.. it's not like it should take them months to build those 1800.. so they might as well wait for OKTB to come in before they start on retail orders... and since this isn't a "new" vehicle.. it may not take as long to get EPA numbers as it did on the Maverick..



edit: Hybrid OKTB was like October 20th or so.. that screenshot is from September 11th, and Non-Hybrid OKTB was around Sept. 15th.

 

[TDPD]

Hi All,

For those that have ordered a Ranger Raptor from US dealers, have you received an order confirmation?

I did receive an order confirmation email from Ford reiterating my order/stock ID which was on the original dealers vehicle order form as well. Just not sure if that's a good sign or potentially meaningless?

Cheers,

Dave

 

[Pdramarocks]

If you received an email directly from ford, that implies your order is a retail order and will not be built yet. The stock orders are going first. I received an order sheet/confirmation, but it was given to me by my dealer because it was a stock order.

 

[RapVillin]

Supposedly if you got a retail order through. Then ford switched it to a stock order (via Long McArthur)

 

[TDPD]

If you received an email directly from ford, that implies your order is a retail order and will not be built yet. The stock orders are going first. I received an order sheet/confirmation, but it was given to me by my dealer because it was a stock order.

Gotcha. That makes sense.

I’ll just have to be extremely patient. ?

 

[bking]

If you received an email directly from ford, that implies your order is a retail order and will not be built yet. The stock orders are going first. I received an order sheet/confirmation, but it was given to me by my dealer because it was a stock order.

I got the same.

 

[nappy]

If you received an email directly from ford, that implies your order is a retail order and will not be built yet. The stock orders are going first. I received an order sheet/confirmation, but it was given to me by my dealer because it was a stock order.

My father-in-law waited over a year for his Ford truck to be picked up after he purchased it.

 

[dmac72]

If you received an email directly from ford, that implies your order is a retail order and will not be built yet. The stock orders are going first. I received an order sheet/confirmation, but it was given to me by my dealer because it was a stock order.

Same. Ordered mine (RRaptor) through local dealership through a personal connection. He entered it as a stock order, priority 20, and has just been forwarding me anything he gets from Ford.

 

[TDPD]

Does a dealer setting the priority code for a retail order to 10 have any meaningful impact with production runs like the RRaptor?

I've seen in the Bronco forums that it may be somewhat meaningless.

" However, on the Bronco the reservation time stamp trumps the priority code as long as the code is 10 or higher. So priority codes don’t really have any bearing on build orders unless they are less than 10, or set to 99."

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/what-do-the-priority-codes-mean.25558/post-892850

 

[goalieThreeOne]

Does a dealer setting the priority code for a retail order to 10 have any meaningful impact with production runs like the RRaptor?

I've seen in the Bronco forums that it may be somewhat meaningless.

" However, on the Bronco the reservation time stamp trumps the priority code as long as the code is 10 or higher. So priority codes don’t really have any bearing on build orders unless they are less than 10, or set to 99."

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/what-do-the-priority-codes-mean.25558/post-892850

All it does is tell Ford what priority the dealership would prefer their orders to be built in. If they have five Rangers on order, the lowers numbered one is what the dealership would like built first of the five. That’s it. Ford can look at that for their scheduling but it will always be up to them. If they don’t have the parts needed to build code 20, they may move ahead to building code 21. It is merely a preference. It does not affect where your vehicle is in terms of overall plant schedule. They have their own method for figuring that out.

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