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I did and they did not budge. Ended up using channel locks to try and get more purchase. When I say these suckers were glued in, it is an understatement. Someone went ham at the factory?
Swearing at them in Japanese, when being torqued from the factory! What kills me is; the pneumatic drivers torque setting can’t be changed on the assembly line.

So, either they’re using red locker or holding the driver on the bolt for 3 minutes steady, maybe both!????
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mgrmax, Sorry to hear you're gonna have to retap it as there isn't much meat in the metal there. I finally dremaled a rectangle head on it and then used a 13mm wrench on it. With some patience I finally got it out.
Any chance you could dumb that down for me lol. I’m not sure what you mean by “rectangular head”. I appreciate it!
 

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He used a Dremel tool and a metal cutting bit on the round bolt head. Cut it from a round head to a rectangle head. This gave him a purposeful grip on the head to use a wrench for removal.

However, I believe you broke off the head of the bolt? So, this technique would‘n’t be effective for your removal.???
 
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They're Torx Plus, which I didn't realize was a thing until I removed mine. I replaced all four (from the ARB air compressor install on passenger side) with black oxide stainless bolts that are regular Torx from BelMetric (https://belmetric.com/torx-button-flange-black-stainless-m8x1-25-coarse-iso-7380-2/) for less than the cost of a single OEM bolt from Ford. Tensile strength PSI is lower than a regular carbon steel bolt, but I don't think it should matter for me since I am not using the tie downs all that aggressively.

Edit: Forgot to mention that I did have to chase/clean out the threads before bolting the tie downs back up. They were completely full of loctite, and there was way too much resistance to try to comfortably screw in the new bolts otherwise
I just ordered some Torx Plus bits. I had no idea such an animal existed.
 
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He used a Dremel tool and a metal cutting bit on the round bolt head. Cut it from a round head to a rectangle head. This gave him a purposeful grip on the head to use a wrench for removal.

However, I believe you broke off the head of the bolt? So, this technique would‘n’t be effective for your removal.???
Got it. Thanks!
 

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They're Torx Plus, which I didn't realize was a thing until I removed mine. I replaced all four (from the ARB air compressor install on passenger side) with black oxide stainless bolts that are regular Torx from BelMetric (https://belmetric.com/torx-button-flange-black-stainless-m8x1-25-coarse-iso-7380-2/) for less than the cost of a single OEM bolt from Ford. Tensile strength PSI is lower than a regular carbon steel bolt, but I don't think it should matter for me since I am not using the tie downs all that aggressively.

Edit: Forgot to mention that I did have to chase/clean out the threads before bolting the tie downs back up. They were completely full of loctite, and there was way too much resistance to try to comfortably screw in the new bolts otherwise
I’d be tempted to use grade 8 bolts they won’t shear and the same. (Chase the threads in the bed.)

I imagine the bolts are binding when put in at the factory, since they’re put in by a driver. They won’t feel them binding, when they get hot.???
 

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Any chance you could dumb that down for me lol. I’m not sure what you mean by “rectangular head”. I appreciate it!
Ranger/Hobb is correct. This is what I did. Also, look at all the red loctite in the threads. Crazy ?
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So, I was trying to remove the tie down hook bolts and bolt head snapped off. Looks like they used blue lock tight. Feels like red lock tight.

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Consider drilling it out and installing a stainless riv nut.
 

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An electric impact has one big flaw, the bit can easily slip. I prefer a hand impact tool, similar to this one.


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I have a smaller 3/8” drive one that I bought 55 years ago to remove those pesky soft Philips screws on my Honda motorcycle. It was the only way to get them out without stripping the heads. When you whack it with a heavy hammer, all the force goes into driving the bit deeper into the fastener. I still use that tool. WEAR A HEAVY GLOVE on the hand holding the tool, otherwise a slip will take the skin off.

If it completely snaps off, you can’t do anything but swear, but IMHO this is better choice than an electric tool for screw head fasteners.

Always chase the threads before reinstalling a bolt, to remove dried thread sealant and steel burrs. Always!

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Spokane WA USA
 
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An electric impact has one big flaw, the bit can easily slip. I prefer a hand impact tool, similar to this one.


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I have a smaller 3/8” drive one that I bought 55 years ago to remove those pesky soft Philips screws on my Honda motorcycle. It was the only way to get them out without stripping the heads. When you whack it with a heavy hammer, all the force goes into driving the bit deeper into the fastener. I still use that tool. WEAR A HEAVY GLOVE on the hand holding the tool, otherwise a slip will take the skin off.

If it completely snaps off, you can’t do anything but swear, but IMHO this is better choice than an electric tool for screw head fasteners.

Always chase the threads before reinstalling a bolt, to remove dried thread sealant and steel burrs. Always!

John Davies
Spokane WA USA
I've had mine for 53 years. I bought it for the exact same purpose. Mine was a Honda S65.
 

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Did you use an impact gun? Only way to get them out correctly.???
I made the mistake of using an impact gun on the first two since I couldn’t get them out any other way. Snapped the cheap bolts right off. Wound up getting them out with a simple 1/2” ratchet wrench. Took it very slowly and the rest of them did come out. I removed them to install the Ford modular bedliner.
 

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An electric impact has one big flaw, the bit can easily slip. I prefer a hand impact tool, similar to this one.


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I have a smaller 3/8” drive one that I bought 55 years ago to remove those pesky soft Philips screws on my Honda motorcycle. It was the only way to get them out without stripping the heads. When you whack it with a heavy hammer, all the force goes into driving the bit deeper into the fastener. I still use that tool. WEAR A HEAVY GLOVE on the hand holding the tool, otherwise a slip will take the skin off.

If it completely snaps off, you can’t do anything but swear, but IMHO this is better choice than an electric tool for screw head fasteners.

Always chase the threads before reinstalling a bolt, to remove dried thread sealant and steel burrs. Always!

John Davies
Spokane WA USA
Like you, I bought mine in the ’70’s for my Kawasaki. Used it yesterday to remove stubborn screws in a golf cart. Has never failed me. At least that I can remember?
 

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An electric impact has one big flaw, the bit can easily slip. I prefer a hand impact tool, similar to this one.


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I have a smaller 3/8” drive one that I bought 55 years ago to remove those pesky soft Philips screws on my Honda motorcycle. It was the only way to get them out without stripping the heads. When you whack it with a heavy hammer, all the force goes into driving the bit deeper into the fastener. I still use that tool. WEAR A HEAVY GLOVE on the hand holding the tool, otherwise a slip will take the skin off.

If it completely snaps off, you can’t do anything but swear, but IMHO this is better choice than an electric tool for screw head fasteners.

Always chase the threads before reinstalling a bolt, to remove dried thread sealant and steel burrs. Always!

John Davies
Spokane WA USA
John, most here have never seen one, let alone used one. This is old school or should I say our old school impact. However, I do agree if it won’t budge.???
 

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John, most here have never seen one, let alone used one. This is old school or should I say our old school impact. However, I do agree if it won’t budge.???
I've still got mine stuck away in one of my tool boxes. Haven't used it in a decade or two...... but appreciate the reminder on using it.
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