Enthusiasm waning.......

[Westyside]

If I take off my Labor hat for a moment and focus purely on getting my truck, it feels like we got dealt a pretty shitty hand. The strike happening firstly at the MAP Ranger/Bronco plant literally as soon as the new 6G rangers were about to hit the line is incredibly unfortunate for the people like us that have put in the time calling dealers, finding allocations, etc for over a year now.

However I think that we're rapidly approaching the endgame of this strike. By shuttering the crown jewel of FoMoCo, the Kentucky Truck Plant, Ford is losing an eye popping amount of money every week (I've seen reports that it's up to $400mm/wk)

Meanwhile we've got the UAW strike fund that still sits at about 80% of the pre strike war chest, but we're entering a second month of those striking workers still only receiving $500/wk from the union compared to their normal paychecks.

I think both sides are going to be pressured even more to get a deal done

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[craigc]

Meanwhile we've got the UAW strike fund that still sits at about 80% of the pre strike war chest, but we're entering a second month of those striking workers still only receiving $500/wk from the union compared to their normal paychecks.

This new strike strategy should have MAP workers very upset too. All this time the MAP workers have been getting a pay cut due to the strike, but the rest of the workers not yet striking have continued to get their full pay, all so that UAW can drag this thing out longer than it needs to be. If I were a MAP worker, while I'd be happy about the outcome to get raises/benefits/etc eventually when this gets settled, I'd be upset about the fact that other UAW workers not striking get the same deal AND their regular pay throughout the process.....

 

[Westyside]

upset about the fact that other UAW workers not striking get the same deal AND their regular pay throughout the process.....

I don't know a lot about organized striking but I wonder if it's even possible to rotate out the strike to other locations. let the MAP folks get back to work so they can actually pay their mortgages/feed their families this month and shutter a different factory for a while.

 

[Bash1990]

This new strike strategy should have MAP workers very upset too. All this time the MAP workers have been getting a pay cut due to the strike, but the rest of the workers not yet striking have continued to get their full pay, all so that UAW can drag this thing out longer than it needs to be. If I were a MAP worker, while I'd be happy about the outcome to get raises/benefits/etc eventually when this gets settled, I'd be upset about the fact that other UAW workers not striking get the same deal AND their regular pay throughout the process.....

Aside from striking while others are not, I'd be upset to still be striking for the sake of the union wanting to expand to represent workers in positions that don't exist yet. (The battery plants)

I'm far from an expert on these things, but surely most/all of what will probably be in the final contract is already on the table.

 

[Jab]

I have no sympathy for the UAW at this point. If you aren't happy with your job there is a solution everyone is free to pursue.

 

[ssjx7squall]

I have no sympathy for the UAW at this point. If you aren't happy with your job there is a solution everyone is free to pursue.

well thankfully this sub isn't representative of the country

 

[zhuskers1]

well thankfully this sub isn't representative of the country

Let's just pray that these plants will not be making military equipment in the future.

 

[ssjx7squall]

Let's just pray that these plants will not be making military equipment in the future.

That’s an odd thing to say. Why?

 

[zhuskers1]

That’s an odd thing to say. Why?

Sorry if this offended anyone and for being off topic.

With all that is happening in the world - just an off the cuff comment. I am praying for our leaders.

To quote Jamie Dimone, “We are in one of the most dangerous times in 20 years”.

 

[goalieThreeOne]

I guess there's some trouble understanding what the word collective means in Collective Bargaining. It means making sacrifices of yourself for the larger wellbeing of others. Some hippy rabbi in Nazareth taught us that. If you ask me the world would be a lot better if we gave more of ourselves to the good of others.

 

[rwolfcastle]

I guess there's some trouble understanding what the word collective means in Collective Bargaining. It means making sacrifices of yourself for the larger wellbeing of others. Some hippy rabbi in Nazareth taught us that. If you ask me the world would be a lot better if we gave more of ourselves to the good of others.

If you're bringing it there, I'll weigh in.

Jesus wasn't a socialist! He taught people to do that on a voluntary basis. He didn't say "give all your money to government or unions and have their corrupt leaders force you to sacrifice your own time and money for their own benefit and maybe the people you want to actually help might see a tiny pittance."

 

[goalieThreeOne]

If you're bringing it there, I'll weigh in.

Jesus wasn't a socialist! He taught people to do that on a voluntary basis. He didn't say "give all your money to government or unions and have their corrupt leaders force you to sacrifice your own time and money for their own benefit and maybe the people you want to actually help might see a tiny pittance."

I absolutely agree with you. But as someone else said, if they didn't like it, they could get other jobs. So it seems to me if they're sticking around through it, they must be doing so voluntarily.

Anyway, was not intending to bring religion into this. I just wanted to point out that, whether or not what they're doing is right or wrong, they're doing so because they believe in what they're doing. And that takes some courage. You have to at least admire the courage to take one for the team like that.

 

[Mikknj]

I'm trying to see this as an opportunity to get a bigger down payment over the next few months. I'm giving myself until January, if by then I don't have it or it hasn't been built yet and I'm still waiting for a date, I'll probably pull the trigger on an AT4X.

There's no way you will get the truck by Jan. My guess is April..

 

[zhuskers1]

There's no way you will get the truck by Jan. My guess is April..

And will it cost more???? Sounds like significant price increases forthcoming.

 

[Bash1990]

There's no way you will get the truck by Jan. My guess is April..

Fingers crossed February. But I'm just trying to stay positive.

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