Wags
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Taco Bell doesn’t really count as tacos but I guess it’s the thought that counts.Hay, I like Taco's.
Ordered some with sour cream on the side the other day.
Hope they don't scab this guy to build trucks!
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Taco Bell doesn’t really count as tacos but I guess it’s the thought that counts.Hay, I like Taco's.
Ordered some with sour cream on the side the other day.
Hope they don't scab this guy to build trucks!
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Mine was 9/25 and got pushed all the way back to 10/30Was 9/18, moved to 10/9 about a month ago. Still holding.
Real tacosHay, I like Taco's.
Ordered some with sour cream on the side the other day.
Hope they don't scab this guy to build trucks!
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According to what that other guy said, having a vin means the parts are accounted for so it could still hold. This would have to mean (since the paint shop is striking) that there’s a room full of body parts already painted and waiting to be built? I wish I knew more about it.Mine was 9/25 and got pushed all the way back to 10/30
No having a VIN doesn't mean that. Being "scheduled" doesn't mean that either. The whole point of JIT is NOT to have parts laying around accounted for, but arriving as close as possible to the day your vehicle is ready/expected to roll down the assembly line. That is really the crux of continued "supply chain problems". Too many vendors and suppliers are not delivering on time as promised- and it completely screws the scheduling and forces on the fly rescheduling as they scramble to find other units they can build that day to keep the line moving and people working.According to what that other guy said, having a vin means the parts are accounted for so it could still hold. This would have to mean (since the paint shop is striking) that there’s a room full of body parts already painted and waiting to be built? I wish I knew more about it.
I work in manufacturing so I’m very familiar with what you’re describing all too well (I get reamed out by contractors on a daily basis for delays). And this all how I assumed it worked. However, according to another user on this forum who works for Ford in manufacturing, having a VIN means parts are accounted for. Don’t shoot the messenger, I’m just regurgitating someone else’s post.No having a VIN doesn't mean that. Being "scheduled" doesn't mean that either. The whole point of JIT is NOT to have parts laying around accounted for, but arriving as close as possible to the day your vehicle is ready/expected to roll down the assembly line. That is really the crux of continued "supply chain problems". Too many vendors and suppliers are not delivering on time as promised- and it completely screws the scheduling and forces on the fly rescheduling as they scramble to find other units they can build that day to keep the line moving and people working.
JIT is an important part of manufacturing however it has it's flaws! Although the idea would be to have a date for all the parts to be available and set the build date. Great on paper, a total disaster in real life for something that is waiting for 100 vendors and over a thousand parts. Issuing a VIN put on the schedule then halfway through the line the dash does not show up or are all defective. I.E. the bronco tops or the 150's with the fire in the dash plant.I work in manufacturing so I’m very familiar with what you’re describing all too well (I get reamed out by contractors on a daily basis for delays). And this all how I assumed it worked. However, according to another user on this forum who works for Ford in manufacturing, having a VIN means parts are accounted for. Don’t shoot the messenger, I’m just regurgitating someone else’s post.
I guess my point was, with the paint line down, and with early October build dates holding for now, they must have some ready right? If it’s as you describe, you can’t install an entire body in the parking lot because it’s a prerequisite for everything else above the frame.JIT is an important part of manufacturing however it has it's flaws! Although the idea would be to have a date for all the parts to be available and set the build date. Great on paper, a total disaster in real life for something that is waiting for 100 vendors and over a thousand parts. Issuing a VIN put on the schedule then halfway through the line the dash does not show up or are all defective. I.E. the bronco tops or the 150's with the fire in the dash plant.
Everything goes into the order scheduling computer, there can see a list of every part when it came, or when it is coming. When the criteria is meet, i.e. all or most of the parts are on hand it will have a VIN issued and go on the schedule. I do not know who or how that call is made, a mystery indeed! This is all supposed to happen quickly as having piles of parts around is a bad thing and actually some expire.
See in the above reply you used the correct word "Accounted for" .
A couple of minor parts expected to be in, it could go on scheduling, however critical parts it will be on hold even if most of the parts are inventoried. When this happens and it seems to happen a lot is mostly the same parts missing from many builds and stopping the line is the last option. So, they have teams that will install those parts in the parking lot.
Checked last Thursday and production was stopped at MAP. If you are waiting for an F150 the lines are still running for the moment at Dearborn. Do not have personal knowledge of what is or not on the line or if stuff was stopped in the middle.I guess my point was, with the paint line down, and with early October build dates holding for now, they must have some ready right? If it’s as you describe, you can’t install an entire body in the parking lot because it’s a prerequisite for everything else above the frame.
Production being stopped at all of MAP is news to me and I don’t recall that being shared here yet. If that’s the case, then forget literally everything I’ve just said because it doesn’t take sense.Checked last Thursday and production was stopped at MAP. If you are waiting for an F150 the lines are still running for the moment at Dearborn. Do not have personal knowledge of what is or not on the line or if stuff was stopped in the middle.
That would be the case as the lines can't run long without the paint shop anyway. The bodies are made completely onsite. The blank panels are made at Detroit stamping and DKP/DKPI along with a few other places but all the MAP and 150 parts come from these places. It gets in depth from here but the aluminum is different for each panel (chemical makeup) These panels are stacked on skids with 1000's of panels. The panels must be bent to the final shape in a certain time frame to avoid cracking, memory effects etc. This only applies to aluminum that most are made of now.Production being stopped at all of MAP is news to me and I don’t recall that being shared here yet. If that’s the case, then forget literally everything I’ve just said because it doesn’t take sense.
not shooting the messenger here. Don't know who the "other guy" is but I'm telling you from my personal Maverick experience from ordering through production to finally receiving my truck 10.5 months later. Having a VIN only means they have reviewed your order at every level and believe it can be built at some point. Usually that comes true eventually, but not always, as some people with cancelled Maverick hybrid orders with VINs found out.I work in manufacturing so I’m very familiar with what you’re describing all too well (I get reamed out by contractors on a daily basis for delays). And this all how I assumed it worked. However, according to another user on this forum who works for Ford in manufacturing, having a VIN means parts are accounted for. Don’t shoot the messenger, I’m just regurgitating someone else’s post.
Songkajai is who I was referring to and he’s provided us some insider knowledge in this thread.not shooting the messenger here. Don't know who the "other guy" is but I'm telling you from my personal Maverick experience from ordering through production to finally receiving my truck 10.5 months later. Having a VIN only means they have reviewed your order at every level and believe it can be built at some point. Usually that comes true eventually, but not always, as some people with cancelled Maverick hybrid orders with VINs found out.
When your order status changes to "In production" you are closer, but still not guaranteed anything. The status you want is "in the factory" meaning it is being prepared to actually roll down the line to be built. It requires an allocation at this point too. Only my salesguy could give me the "in the factory" heads up using their internal scheduling report published daily.
and then we wait...