Ford Procal Performance Tune Installed!

[pablo94sc]

Any more reviews of the tune? How is shifting in normal now? Mpg improvements? Anything else of note?

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[PA Raptor]

Got the Ford Performance Tune installed on Friday and drove from PA to NJ to drop 6, one hundred pound boxes to be shipped to the Philippines on Saturday. My take of the tune so far…. Definitely more power, and it seems it kicks in from the second you hit the gas pedal. I was able to easily pass cars on 295 with the load, but the fun part was coming home empty. I pushed it a little harder than normal to see what she had, and she didn’t disappoint. Plenty of power and the transmission shifting was much smoother than before the tune. Oh, and I stayed in normal mode for the whole trip. Normal mode feels like sport mode did before the tune. As for gas mileage, I was sitting at 17.3mpg for the last month and yesterday it stayed at that. I believe if I had driven it responsibly and without a 600 pound load it might have increased a little. So in a nutshell, I’m happy with it and would highly recommend it

 

[Mgrmax]

Prior to getting into the Rangers, I owned several Dodge challengers, including a Hellcat. Speed is relative. That being said, this tune is fun!

I need to do some 0-60 pulls to check the time difference pre-tune. It’s definitely faster. I actually got some chirp when it was switching gears. Super happy with it so far and definitely worth the price!

with regards to shifting, it’s smoother. My MPG’s were at 12.7. Ticked up to 12.9. I’m in sport mode always. I go from 0 to whatever the speed limit is as quick as possible.

 

[John B]

Seriously, you need to stop pushing your misinformation agenda. Almost every post you’ve commented regarding the Ford Performance tune is wrong.

As per Ford performance; “The tune doesn’t affect the factory Ford warranty at all.“ 3 years 36 months, 5 year/60K or any extended warranty purchased by the owner thru Ford.

You’re either ignoring post #170 all together or are unable to comprehend what was given by Ford Performance. Either way, you’re attempting to misinform members.🫵

I was on the site to find something else and made the mistake of reading thru this thread again.... lol

You are correct that a tune, of any sort actually, does not negate the original warranty or any addition extended warranty. Ford "might" not warranty any damage that they can prove with evidence was caused specifically by the tune. Of course, ford performance will definitely cover for the first 36k/36mo. My service manager, a long time friend, has assured me that this has never happened for a ford performance tune, as least to his knowledge, and he's been around for a long time.

And as for any confusion re who wrote the tune, Livernois has a history of subcontracting with Ford for engineering, software development etc. Livernois is pretty good at this kind of work, and having access to how the oem tune is protected, allows them to be very quick and accurate with putting together a safe tune. No doubt Livernois will release a tune under their name that has a lot more options

 

[Mgrmax]

Livernois did the install of my Ford tune. According to them, they are approximately 6 months out from releasing their tune for our Raptor.

 

[MAV]

I can understand that Ford Performance would have access to Ford's proprietary code, but how are 3rd party companies like Livernois getting through the PCM encryption to work on a tune?

 

[DinoBirdClaws88]

Don’t play coy………….You’re insinuating and misinforming him that Ford won’t honor his extended warranty if he adds the Ford Performance tune. The warranty specified on the Procal and tune alone is 3 years 36K mile.

The ford factory warranty isn’t dependent upon this warranty, in no way shape or form. In fact, the factory warranty and any owner purchased extended warranty is intact, as per Ford Performance.

This was provided directly from a Ford Performance Supervision and posted publically post #170 in other related thread.

You fully understand ha he was clearly talking about adding the tune and feared losing his extended warranty. Instead of telling him the truth, you choose to misinform him. This isn’t the first time you’ve made several misinformed comments between this and the other thread.

The truth is there to read, if you have a mind too. However, continuing to claim differently, is both spreading misinformation and false.

Ok, I’ve read this statement from you about 10 times in other posts and you keep repeating the same information. We all get it and understand.

The facts and registered paperwork may say one thing- “Ford will Honor all warranties” that’s really great…

Now here is a little common sense and a history lesson- I worked for Ford (02’-07’) I have been in the Military since then, but I do get re-hired and have worked part time through the years at many locations and positions within Ford. The truth is this… (since people have their own mind as you say) there are good dealers and bad (most are all about the bottom line and not the people). I’ve seen warranty claims denied for these following reasons:

Screen Display not working- Denied due to LED lights plugged in the cigarette lighter (Ford 2002 zx2)

Engine blown- denied due to a aftermarket box air filter (2004 Ford Focus SVT)

Engine blown- racing (owner announced it) and aftermarket blow off valve (2017 Ford Focus ST)

Cam phaser issue- Denied due to failure to adhere to break in procedures (because Customer stated they “went hard out of the box” (2022 F150 Raptor)

The above list is just the dumbest things I’ve seen warranties denied for, but there are many many more. Sure, These customers should’ve been smarter, but that doesn’t change the fact that Ford should’ve covered all of these issues. People have a right to second-guess what Ford performance says versus what your dealer is gonna tell you to your face.

 

[BigMeatsBronco]

You gotta understand that some of these folks have owned imports in the past where the manufacturer WOULD blackball your entire vehicle from any warranty claims nationwide if tuned. AFAIK Ford has never had a policy like that, and my experience w/my Bronco and the Ford tune has been that there have been no questions asked (I WAS denied a warranty claim because of suspension lift tho). The facts are that every service manager in the Ford universe will try to weasel out of any warranty claim they can. Best to not give them any reasons/ideas...you do know those guys have the internet too right?

All true, however years ago I was able to butter up a isuzu service manager with 2 cases of beer at EVERY visit...He would tell me "take the lift kit off and the big tires and we'll get the tranny replaced for you under warranty " the truck went through 3 transmissions...and on another occasion he said " replace the smashed oil pan, and we'll warranty the engine." More beer = more warranty!

By the time I got rid of the truck, the warranty costs were higher than the original purchase price.


These days I don't even bother with warranty, I just fix shit myself.

 

[Bmadda]

All true, however years ago I was able to butter up a isuzu service manager with 2 cases of beer at EVERY visit...He would tell me "take the lift kit off and the big tires and we'll get the tranny replaced for you under warranty " the truck went through 3 transmissions...and on another occasion he said " replace the smashed oil pan, and we'll warranty the engine." More beer = more warranty!

By the time I got rid of the truck, the warranty costs were higher than the original purchase price.


These days I don't even bother with warranty, I just fix shit myself.

You sir are a MADMAN! LOL I took the Bronco to a car show this weekend (local 4x4 club wanted to show off some of our stuff), and the 1st thing everybody looking at it said was "bet that voided the warranty"! AFAIK the warranty is still good, the local service manager has looked at it, and he thinks it's cool

 

[AlpineBike]

Ranger/Hobb already thinks he knows everything unfortunately.
He shares everything he thinks he knows as gospel even if he’s spreading misinformation. He isn’t the type of guy you will ever see say something like “O, sorry, I was mistaken” or “I didn’t know that”.

Take everything that he says with a grain of salt.

 

[jp001]

Got the Ford Performance Tune installed on Friday and drove from PA to NJ to drop 6, one hundred pound boxes to be shipped to the Philippines on Saturday. My take of the tune so far…. Definitely more power, and it seems it kicks in from the second you hit the gas pedal. I was able to easily pass cars on 295 with the load, but the fun part was coming home empty. I pushed it a little harder than normal to see what she had, and she didn’t disappoint. Plenty of power and the transmission shifting was much smoother than before the tune. Oh, and I stayed in normal mode for the whole trip. Normal mode feels like sport mode did before the tune. As for gas mileage, I was sitting at 17.3mpg for the last month and yesterday it stayed at that. I believe if I had driven it responsibly and without a 600 pound load it might have increased a little. So in a nutshell, I’m happy with it and would highly recommend it

I can't figure out where to order the tune from

 

[RANGER/HOBB]

Ok, I’ve read this statement from you about 10 times in other posts and you keep repeating the same information. We all get it and understand.

The facts and registered paperwork may say one thing- “Ford will Honor all warranties” that’s really great…

Now here is a little common sense and a history lesson- I worked for Ford (02’-07’) I have been in the Military since then, but I do get re-hired and have worked part time through the years at many locations and positions within Ford. The truth is this… (since people have their own mind as you say) there are good dealers and bad (most are all about the bottom line and not the people). I’ve seen warranty claims denied for these following reasons:

Screen Display not working- Denied due to LED lights plugged in the cigarette lighter (Ford 2002 zx2)

Engine blown- denied due to a aftermarket box air filter (2004 Ford Focus SVT)

Engine blown- racing (owner announced it) and aftermarket blow off valve (2017 Ford Focus ST)

Cam phaser issue- Denied due to failure to adhere to break in procedures (because Customer stated they “went hard out of the box” (2022 F150 Raptor)

The above list is just the dumbest things I’ve seen warranties denied for, but there are many many more. Sure, These customers should’ve been smarter, but that doesn’t change the fact that Ford should’ve covered all of these issues. People have a right to second-guess what Ford performance says versus what your dealer is gonna tell you to your face.

Gee wiz and you’ve just proven that it’s all owner related denials……….…..thanks for the affirmation/comfirmation. Looks like you may need to make better choices, with what dealerships you work for. (Mechanic or service attendant?)

Let’s see, again………..over 40 years + owning Fords with Ford Performance, Mountune and Cobb performance parts on various models………….never had a warranty denial, go figure……………. Even a complete clutch warrantied on a GT500, with a Ford Performance Supercharger and tune upgrade. Thanks again Capt. Obvious, for affirming owner stupidity.

Maybe I need to post it again, to prove the point about developing a good relationship with a specific dealership GM and service manager?

Pushing misinformation to what is contrary to Ford Performance has commented, is an issue for owners attempting to find out the truth. Just like others, I can make up mind and have, without the naysayers pushing false misinformation.

As far as getting it……you don’t speak for anyone else or myself, just yourself.

(since people have their own mind as you say)

So what’s your point? You’re agreeing with what I said…………..

Now, you may have read it 10 times or the references to the post #170. However, I posted it twice in its entirety in the original thread and nothing here, except reference to it in several posts for owners, who didn’t read it. So, you can stop with your false agenda and commentary.

Oh yeah, by chance are you purchasing and installing the Ford Performance RR tune by chance…………? 🫵

 

[PA Raptor]

I can't figure out where to order the tune from

I ordered mine through Blue Oval Industries as soon as they announced they were taking pre-orders. They’re great to deal with. I also ordered my stock mud flaps from them

 

[Bmadda]

Ok, I’ve read this statement from you about 10 times in other posts and you keep repeating the same information. We all get it and understand.

The facts and registered paperwork may say one thing- “Ford will Honor all warranties” that’s really great…

Now here is a little common sense and a history lesson- I worked for Ford (02’-07’) I have been in the Military since then, but I do get re-hired and have worked part time through the years at many locations and positions within Ford. The truth is this… (since people have their own mind as you say) there are good dealers and bad (most are all about the bottom line and not the people). I’ve seen warranty claims denied for these following reasons:

Screen Display not working- Denied due to LED lights plugged in the cigarette lighter (Ford 2002 zx2)

Engine blown- denied due to a aftermarket box air filter (2004 Ford Focus SVT)

Engine blown- racing (owner announced it) and aftermarket blow off valve (2017 Ford Focus ST)

Cam phaser issue- Denied due to failure to adhere to break in procedures (because Customer stated they “went hard out of the box” (2022 F150 Raptor)

The above list is just the dumbest things I’ve seen warranties denied for, but there are many many more. Sure, These customers should’ve been smarter, but that doesn’t change the fact that Ford should’ve covered all of these issues. People have a right to second-guess what Ford performance says versus what your dealer is gonna tell you to your face.

You should clarify if those were claims which were submitted and then bounced, or if the service mgr just refused to warranty them. Doesn't sound like bounced claims to me

 

[DinoBirdClaws88]

Gee wiz and you’ve just proven that it’s all owner related denials……….…..thanks for the affirmation/comfirmation. Looks like you may need to make better choices, with what dealerships you work for. (Mechanic or service attendant?)

Let’s see, again………..over 40 years + owning Fords with Ford Performance, Mountune and Cobb performance parts on various models………….never had a warranty denial, go figure……………. Even a complete clutch warrantied on a GT500, with a Ford Performance Supercharger and tune upgrade. Thanks again Capt. Obvious, for affirming owner stupidity.

Maybe I need to post it again, to prove the point about developing a good relationship with a specific dealership GM and service manager?

Pushing misinformation to what is contrary to Ford Performance has commented, is an issue for owners attempting to find out the truth. Just like others, I can make up mind and have, without the naysayers pushing false misinformation.

As far as getting it……you don’t speak for anyone else or myself, just yourself. So what’s your point? You’re agreeing with what I said…………..

Now, you may have read it 10 times or the references to the post #170. However, I posted it twice in its entirety in the original thread and nothing here, except reference to it in several posts for owners, who didn’t read it. So, you can stop with your false agenda and commentary.

Oh yeah, by chance are you purchasing and installing the Ford Performance RR tune by chance…………? 🫵

I had the tune Installed today and I’m trusting my dealer. That doesn’t mean I won’t get screwed in the future. I spent days researching F150 Raptor owners that legitimately tried to sue Ford for not fixing trucks due to no fault of their own. You’ve stated your personal experience and your Ford performance contact- Are you or him going to cover the repair cost if you’re wrong?

False agenda? I’m not a news agency. Sure dude, I exaggerated to make a point and you’re obviously a complete dork and keyboard warrior. You missed the entire point- You’ve had tunes with no warranty issues and others have experienced different, yay for you-

I’m sure you are going to post some more ridiculous comments with those super cool emojis, go right on ahead…

(Everyone else in this forum) apologies, hopefully you’re entertained by the drama. This guys attitude and tone is just really rubbing me the wrong way.

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