Ford Performance Tune Released for Ranger Raptor for 455 HP / 536 LB-FT Torque

[Erikpra]

Show us the conversation verbatim, please.

Ford Performance, doesn’t have anything to do with the Warranty Division. operations. There is nothing in either the factory warranty or extended warranty agreement that indicates this and it must be in writing as per federal consumer requirements.

The Ford extended warranty; is a bumper to bumper, (not including the bumpers) owner paid warranty. They can’t cancel it, unless they specifically reimburse the owner.

What you’re suggesting is; contrary to what Ford offers in their extended warranty plans.

OMG. Like I would make it up. Too much drama on these forums. I’m not saying anything. This is directly from a guy I spoke with on the phone from Ford performance. I don’t recall the guys name. He seemed like he has been there for a long time and was involved with the tune. He even mentioned flashing it back to stock after three years if you want to minimize risk but as may know the ECU keeps data on flashes so they would pick it up if there was some kind of catastrophic failure. How can I show you a conversation over the phone? I called the number on their website today. Call them yourself man. If you have any experience with aftermarket tunes, then you would know that the warranty can be voided. If they believe any vehicle modification results in damage, they can and will void the warranty. Simple as that. This tune makes the truck no longer stock. Ford Performance is a division of Ford but it doesn’t fall under the factory warranty which is why they back up any damage for the first 3 years/36k only. I guess it’s not unlike some other companies like Dinan with Bmw. Their tunes are backed up by
Dinan’s warranty if BMW feels a warranty claim is due to excess wear and tear from their tune.

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[BDreason]

Is there any way to get this ECU tune for a California registered vehicle and not void the warranty?

Thanks,

 

[MAV]

We've already had this discussion about the FP tune: https://www.ranger6g.com/forum/thre...with-ford-performance-at-pri.8312/post-182531 (Yes, I know I got every single reference to the 5yr/60k mile powertrain warranty wrong! Bite me! )

The bottom line is that you are essentially reducing your 5/60 powertrain warranty to 3/36, unless you've got the knowledge, skills, abilities, and lawyers to convince a judge that your powertrain failed for a reason OTHER than the increased HP and torque from the FP tune, which in fact does exceed the rated power handling capabilities of the transmission. If you're good with that, then tune it. It is still a good deal to have a tune that provides ANY kind of warranty, and I will probably get one.

Edit: more info..

From the Ford website:

So isn't a Ford Performance part (or software) a "Ford part"? From the Ford Performance website:

Ford has thoroughly covered its ass. So much so that in fact, I think I've voided my powertrain warranty simply by installing "oversized tires", although I would make the argument that the wheels are factory Ford Bronco wheels, so technically it's a Genuine Ford Part.

 

[Erikpra]

We've already had this discussion about the FP tune: https://www.ranger6g.com/forum/thre...with-ford-performance-at-pri.8312/post-182531 (Yes, I know I got every single reference to the 5yr/60k mile powertrain warranty wrong! Bite me! )

The bottom line is that you are essentially reducing your 5/60 powertrain warranty to 3/36, unless you've got the knowledge, skills, abilities, and lawyers to convince a judge that your powertrain failed for a reason OTHER than the increased HP and torque from the FP tune, which in fact does exceed the rated power handling capabilities of the transmission. If you're good with that, then tune it. It is still a good deal to have a tune that provides ANY kind of warranty, and I will probably get one.

Thank you for chiming in. Yes I agree. It is a very good deal.

 

[RANGER/HOBB]

Ford. I guess Ford extended warranty wouldn’t cover either. Kind of disappointing.

. This ^ is what is called anecdotal information or speculation and is no where near factual.🫵

OMG. Like I would make it up. Too much drama on these forums. I’m not saying anything. This is directly from a guy I spoke with on the phone from Ford performance. How can I show you a conversation over the phone? I called the number on their website today. Call them yourself man. If you have any experience with aftermarket tunes, then you would know that the warranty can be voided. If they believe any vehicle modification results in damage, they can and will void the warranty. Simple as that. This tune makes the truck no longer stock. Ford Performance is a division of Ford but it doesn’t fall under the factory warranty which is why they back up any damage for the first 3 years/36k only.

• Peak power = 455 hp @ 5,500 rpm
• Peak torque = 536 lb-ft @ 3,000 rpm
• Improved throttle response throughout the rpm range
• Optimized Shift Schedule
• M-12655-F Pro-Cal 4 tool included
• 3yr/36k mile Ford Performance warranty from new vehicle in-service when installed by a Ford dealer or ASE/Red Seal certified technician. Please contact the Ford Performance Parts Techline for warranty registration.
• Premium Fuel Required (91 octane minimum)
• For US & Canada Vehicles Only
• 49-State Approved, Non-California Approved

First off, I don’t know what you’d do, don’t care and won’t speculate.

Second, this is what Ford Performance says in writing ^.

Third, the drama here; is only being brought about in your current commentary.

Lastly, unless you’re able to produce some evidence to what you’re commenting to, doesn’t hold any validity and is all anecdotal commentary.

As far as tuning and tunes are concerned;

I’d say, “ I’ve been around longer, accomplished more tuning in general, then years you’ve been alive.”

However, this aside; the truck and its drive train is covered four 3 years/36 thousand by Ford and Ford Performance no matter.

The extended paid warranty comes in effect when the 3 years/36K warranty concludes. So, for Ford Performance to comment or even hint at canceling an extended paid warranty is at best, inconsistent and contrary to Ford Warranty Division extended warranty soecifications.

I’ll find out from my dealer tomorrow and then speak with Ford Performance via email, providing a transcript of the conversation to preclude any speculation or anecdotal commentary..🫵

 

[wolf32v]

Thank you for chiming in. Yes I agree. It is a very good deal.

If the tune is applied to the vehicle prior to delivery orignal warranty stays. I talk to my service manager he comfirmed that is how it works. otherwise 3yr 36,000 if tuned after delivery

 

[Erikpra]

• Peak power = 455 hp @ 5,500 rpm
• Peak torque = 536 lb-ft @ 3,000 rpm
• Improved throttle response throughout the rpm range
• Optimized Shift Schedule
• M-12655-F Pro-Cal 4 tool included
• 3yr/36k mile Ford Performance warranty from new vehicle in-service when installed by a Ford dealer or ASE/Red Seal certified technician. Please contact the Ford Performance Parts Techline for warranty registration.
• Premium Fuel Required (91 octane minimum)
• For US & Canada Vehicles Only
• 49-State Approved, Non-California Approved

First off, I don’t know what you’d do, don’t care and won’t speculate.

Second, this is what Ford Performance says in writing ^.

Third, the drama here; is only being brought about in your current commentary.

Lastly, unless you’re able to produce some evidence to what you’re commenting to it’s doesn’t hold any validity and all anecdotal.

As far as tuning and tunes are concerned;

“I’d say, “ I’ve been around and accomplished more tuning in general, then years you’ve been alive.”

However, this aside; the truck and its drive train is covered four 3 years/36 thousand by Ford and Ford Performance no matter.

The extended paid warranty comes in effect when the 3years/36K warranty concludes. So, for Ford Performance to comment or even hint at canceling an extended paid warranty is at best, inconsistent and contrary to Ford Warranty Division extended warranty soecifications.

I’ll find out from my dealer tomorrow and then speak with Ford Performance via email, providing a transcript of the conversation to preclude any speculation or anecdotal information.🫵

You go gettem. See the post above from MAV. It shows actual documentation from Ford showing how this can void your warranty. I was also just stating what I was told by them directly as an attempt to be helpful for those that are considering tuning their vehicle. I have no stake in this personally. Again you’re welcome to call them yourself. See the other post above from someone who has direct experience with Ford Performance as this has already been addressed. They said the same thing I did. Ford performance didn’t say anything about canceling an extended warranty, but it can be voided by Ford and the claim denied just like the original factory warranty. I would also check with your extended warranty because I know previous extended warranties from Ford and most other manufacturers does not cover modifications. They pretty much mirror the factory warranty. Therefore, this tune can void your Ford powertrain warranty whether it’s extended or not.

 

[RANGER/HOBB]

I’m just telling you what I was told by them directly as an attempt to be helpful for those that are considering tuning their vehicle. I have no stake in this personally. Again you’re welcome to call them yourself. See the other post above from someone who has direct experience with Ford Performance as this has already been addressed. They said the same thing I did. Ford performance didn’t say anything about canceling an extended warranty, but it can be voided by Ford and the claim denied just like the original factory warranty. I would also check with your extended warranty because I know previous extended warranties from Ford and most other manufacturers does not cover modifications. They pretty much mirror the factory warranty.

You did, so I have to post it again so you’ll admit it?

Ford. I guess Ford extended warranty wouldn’t cover either. Kind of disappointing.

I don’t believe you understand the first thing about what you’re commenting to. It’s up to the dealership solely. They are the one who services and reports warranted issues to Ford Warranty Division. You’re correct; you have no stake in this whatsoever. What anyone does with their Raptor, is solely up to their personal determination.

I've been with the same dealership for many decades. They have warrantied every Ford Performance modification or warranty issues without question. This was any Ford we owned, including our GT500 and that was purchased and installed by them. Including a complete new clutch for the GT500, that had a Ford performance, upgraded supercharger, and tune when it failed. Along with, an extended warrant as well!

I’ll say it again,”I don’t know what you did, don’t care, but no one has seen any evidence of it. I’m not going to speculate on what you have or haven’t done. @MAV has explained it to you plainly, so have I. You're the one attempting to justify your commentary.……….

I’ll do what is necessary for me and my Raptor. I’ll also report what I found out, in writing to support it either way.🫵

 

[Blue Ridge Raptor]

…if Ford will prorate/refund the unused portion of the ESP then I prolly won’t be able to resist. 536ft/lbs of torque would make me smile while seeing tires go up in smoke!
I Better get those J braces installed first.

 

[Erikpra]

You did, so I have to post it again so you’ll admit it? I don’t believe you understand the first thing about what you’re commenting to. It’s up to the dealership solely. They are the one who services and reports warranted issues to Ford Warranty Division. You’re correct; you have no stake in this whatsoever. What anyone does with their Raptor, is solely up to their personal determination.

I've been with the same dealership for many decades. They have warrantied every Ford Performance modification or warranty issues without question. This was any Ford we owned, including our GT500 and that was purchased and installed by them. Including a complete new clutch for the GT500, that had a Ford performance, upgraded supercharger, and tune when it failed. Along with, an extended warrant as well!

I’ll say it again,”I don’t know what you did, don’t care, but no one has seen any evidence of it. I’m not going to speculate on what you have or haven’t done. @MAV has explained it to you plainly, so have I. You're the one attempting to justify your commentary.……….

I’ll do what is necessary for me and my Raptor. I’ll also report what I found out, in writing to support it either way.🫵

He explained the same thing I did and all I did was state what Ford performance told me directly. I simply can’t spend time explaining this again. Admit what?? The drama continues. Some people just can’t admit when they are wrong. I’ll let you fight this out with your dealership and Ford. Good luck.

 

[moproblems]

The shitfling on these forums is impressive, keep it up guys.

Remember, at the end of the day it's pay to play when it comes down to mods.

 

[RANGER/HOBB]

He explained the same thing I did. Again more drama from you. Good luck.

Oh, so I guess you didn’t speculate about; “losing an extended warranty” either…………..🥱 🫵.

I’d say you’re drama, has caught you in a dilemma. Move on man you don't have a dog in this race.

The shitfling on these forums is impressive, keep it up guys.

Remember, at the end of the day it's pay to play when it comes down to mods.

Exactly.

 

[RANGER/HOBB]

He explained the same thing I did and all I did was state what Ford performance told me directly. I simply can’t spend time explaining this again. Admit what?? The drama continues. Some people just can’t admit when they are wrong. I’ll let you fight this out with your dealership and Ford. Good luck.

Won’t be a fight and something you can‘t possible know. If it’s not your drama, then the why do you feel compelled to avoid the obvious speculation you posted! Feeling guilty, or is that why you feel compelled to continue.

I guess Ford extended warranty wouldn’t cover either. Kind of disappointing.

Wrong about what? I explained it to you plainly in several successive posts past. 🫵

 

[Erikpra]

The shitfling on these forums is impressive, keep it up guys.

Remember, at the end of the day it's pay to play when it comes down to mods.

I know. This is my first time posting on this forum and I’ve already been attacked by a retirement community keyboard warrior that drives a GT500 and demands proof of my statements all the while dropping American flag emojis at me as though he is the only American here. Lol. I was just trying to share some helpful information.

 

[moproblems]

I know. This is my first time posting on this forum and I’ve already been attacked by an old keyboard warrior that drives a GT500 and demands proof of my statements all the while using American flag emojis at me as though he is the only American here. Lol. I was just trying to help.

Yeah he's a bit of a pain in the ass. If he's genuinely posting like that it's cringe, but if he's trolling it's the funniest bit I have seen on the internet in a while. Unfortunately, I don't think it's a bit.

At the end of the day, I see this tune as a holdover for myself so I don't spend the outrageous money ZFG is asking for stage 0. Sure, it may shorten the warranty... But I was going to void it anyways. I had an extended warranty on the truck but refunded it due to the extreme probability that I was going to tune it. Good thing I did.

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