2.3L and 2.7L Engines

[Terrorbyte]

Like I said, doesn’t eliminate it, I just don’t think it’s wise to assume there won’t be buildup at all. But I do agree, and at 125k a walnut blast is not a huge expense.

word. its a whole lot less maintenance than engines used to have to endure.
i loved my F150 but it was just larger than what i needed and the previous ranger looked interesting on the outside but like a ford focus on the inside which made that a non starter.

hopefully the 2024 hits the spot. im anxious to check one out.

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[Ranger Nick]

Why is that? F150 has 6 engine choices. The T6 platform has been proven to accept 2.7 V6 in Broncos.
If Ford really wants to steer people away from Ranger, just do away with US Ranger. If Ranger wasn't available, that wouldn't compel me to buy an F150.

I think most people in the midsize market are there for a reason; the midsize. If the Ranger wasn’t available, I’d stick with a Canyon or Colorado.

 

[FreezingFlatlander]

Need something else to talk about. General Engine Chat.

Has the 2.3L Engine been up graded since the 5G Ranger. Ford 2.3 EcoBoost Engine Specs, Problems, Reliability, oil, Mustang, Focus RS (motorreviewer.com)

Has the 2.7L Engine been upgrade since 2018. Ford 2.7 EcoBoost Engine Specs, Problems, Reliability, oil, F-150, Bronco (motorreviewer.com)

Most likely both of them the emission systems have been improved.

Has the fuel economy improved.

What do you think about the engine Architecture.

How easy are the engines to service. ie Ranger 2.3L 5G oil filter is recommended to go in through the left fender and remove the mud guard.

2.7L has the Port and direct injection. Less possibility in the long term of having coking problems on the valves

Need something else to talk about. General Engine Chat.

Has the 2.3L Engine been up graded since the 5G Ranger. Ford 2.3 EcoBoost Engine Specs, Problems, Reliability, oil, Mustang, Focus RS (motorreviewer.com)

Has the 2.7L Engine been upgrade since 2018. Ford 2.7 EcoBoost Engine Specs, Problems, Reliability, oil, F-150, Bronco (motorreviewer.com)

Most likely both of them the emission systems have been improved.

Has the fuel economy improved.

What do you think about the engine Architecture.

How easy are the engines to service. ie Ranger 2.3L 5G oil filter is recommended to go in through the left fender and remove the mud guard.

2.7L has the Port and direct injection. Less possibility in the long term of having coking problems on the valves

I would prefer the 2.7 engine but with production delays due to the strike I doubt they will be showing up for a long, long time. The local dealer has a 2.3 that was scheduled for production that I may trade for if it's ever produced. I have an F150 4x4 with the 2.7 engine and love it, lots of power . rarely do I get less than 20 mpg. I have a friend with a 2021 Ranger, 2.3 engine, and he tells me he likes it except that it averages 19 mpg which is disappointing. A search on the Fuelly app shows that the 2.3 engine average fuel mileage is in the 18-20 mpg range. The dealer told me that the 2.3 engine will not get anywhere near the EPA rating and that 19 mpg is what they had been hearing. I want something smaller than the F150 but am not willing to wait a year to get one with the 2.7 engine. Am sticking with Ford because of the dealership here has been so good to me over the years.

 

[tbalt14]

I would prefer the 2.7 engine but with production delays due to the strike I doubt they will be showing up for a long, long time. The local dealer has a 2.3 that was scheduled for production that I may trade for if it's ever produced. I have an F150 4x4 with the 2.7 engine and love it, lots of power . rarely do I get less than 20 mpg. I have a friend with a 2021 Ranger, 2.3 engine, and he tells me he likes it except that it averages 19 mpg which is disappointing. A search on the Fuelly app shows that the 2.3 engine average fuel mileage is in the 18-20 mpg range. The dealer told me that the 2.3 engine will not get anywhere near the EPA rating and that 19 mpg is what they had been hearing. I want something smaller than the F150 but am not willing to wait a year to get one with the 2.7 engine. Am sticking with Ford because of the dealership here has been so good to me over the years.

Is your friends 2.3L Ranger the Tremor model? Those do get around 19 and also depends on many factors. My 2.3L Lariat Fx4 averages 23.5 back and forth to work. 55mph country roads I can easily get 26. It depends on how its driven and my tires are also stock sized.

 

[FreezingFlatlander]

Is your friends 2.3L Ranger the Tremor model? Those do get around 19 and also depends on many factors. My 2.3L Lariat Fx4 averages 23.5 back and forth to work. 55mph country roads I can easily get 26. It depends on how its driven and my tires are also stock sized.

No, my friend does not have a Tremor, it's an XLT. He is a farmer so lots of the driving is on rural dirt roads at speeds around 45-50 mph, same as me. Thanks for reporting your experience with the 2.3 and it's gas mileage. Some may question why I would trade and F150 2.7 that gets 20 mpg and over but it's mostly because I just want something smaller, something easier to park and manuever. I retired from farming so really don't need the larger truck, the F150 is a great truck.

 

[cb4017]

I had a 2020 Ranger FX4 and for the most part was happy with the performance and economy of the 2.3L engine. It had no problem hauling my 3K pound travel trailer. A couple of things did bother me about it. The DI injectors were noisy. Sometimes the thing sounded like a diesel clattering.
That and knowing that carbon was building up on the valves and would have to be addressed some day.

A good friend had the 2.7L in an F150. He was happy with it but did have leaks from the oil pan.

I'm currently driving a 23 F150 Rattler. Awesome truck and I'm spoiled by the 3.5L engine 400 hp and 500 lb ft of torque. It still manages to get just over 20 mpg. BUT, It's a large truck and I don't particularly like driving it. I've been driving mid size trucks or Jeeps (Wranglers, a Gladiator) for years. Guess I'm just used to smaller and more maneuverable vehicles.

I've already asked my dealer to give me a call when I can order a Ranger with the 2.7 engine.

 

[Ranger XLT Fan]

I know everyone here is hyped about the 2.7 liter engine and its power, but are there any positive arguments for the 2.3 liter? There are several things I would like to find out and it may come down to what you value most.

1. Gas mileage - I know it's been stated in here that they are almost exactly the same. Maybe wait for the official mpg ratings? Even 1 extra mpg is 'something' when it comes to pick up trucks.
2. Underpowered - will the 2.3 liter be considered underpowered although all current Rangers are using them?

I test drove both…2.3 first. I was shopping it against Tacoma’s 4 cyl. Liked Tacoma, but preferred Ranger. Then thought I’d try the 2.7 just to compare. Salesman said there was “only one on the lot” and it “wouldn’t last through the weekend.” I fell for it…bought it right there. I might be too gullible. But I got a great truck. And if truth be told, the 2.3L is just as good and would have saved me some money.

 

[hand-filer]

I had a 2020 Ranger FX4 and for the most part was happy with the performance and economy of the 2.3L engine. It had no problem hauling my 3K pound travel trailer. A couple of things did bother me about it. The DI injectors were noisy. Sometimes the thing sounded like a diesel clattering.
That and knowing that carbon was building up on the valves and would have to be addressed some day.

A good friend had the 2.7L in an F150. He was happy with it but did have leaks from the oil pan.

I'm currently driving a 23 F150 Rattler. Awesome truck and I'm spoiled by the 3.5L engine 400 hp and 500 lb ft of torque. It still manages to get just over 20 mpg. BUT, It's a large truck and I don't particularly like driving it. I've been driving mid size trucks or Jeeps (Wranglers, a Gladiator) for years. Guess I'm just used to smaller and more maneuverable vehicles.

I've already asked my dealer to give me a call when I can order a Ranger with the 2.7 engine.

That issue was dealt with a couple of years ago with a new oil pan design.

 

[Scooter]

I ordered the 2.3L MPC over the 2.7L. I figure there is just less to go wrong with the 4 Cylinder.
Very impressed with how much open space there is in the engine compartment. Easier to work on and more open space to keep the engine cool. If I was going to tow close to the 7500lbs I would have ordered the 2.7L. I own a 2.3L standard in a 4G Ranger. That's 145Hp. I am sure i will be more then happy with the new 2.3L MPC.

 

[Scooter]

I think what is best for any ICE is to change the oil every 7 to 10 KM.

With modern coatings it best to keep the oil clean.

An example is i have a 2004 Suzuki SV1000S. It has 96 K on it. Still a great bike. Try to take care of your Transportation. I would change the oil every season if i would Tour. That Grunty V Twin has like most modern ICE is coated cylinder walls. Hard Coated with a thin layer of hard coating. Not like a sleeved block with resilient cylinders walls or a cast iron block.
Funny my 2011 Ford has a Cast Iron Block. Some sort of Carbon metal.
It has the steel block and Mazda cylinder head. 2011 Ranger.

Its has the bucket over shim valve adjustment. Takes along time for the
measured gap from bucket to cam to get out of adjustment.
I wish i could find the video of a head with its cams off.
I did not know if it was real or they were just fooling around.
It was like red neck assembly.
He did not keep the buckets in order the way they came off.
The he takes one bucket and starts hammering it into the aluminum head with a rubber mallet.
I was horrified.

The way most auto companies make their Aluminum Blocks is through a high pressure injected mold. Makes the block's metallurgy better. Not forged but the crystal structures are stronger from the process.

I think i can verify that the 2.3L has forged rods not sure about the crank


Here's an article of the 2015 2.3L.

I would think some of the information still holds true of the way you would build a 2.3L MPC.
This info is from the 2015 2.3L Engine. The MPC motor must use some or most of this design.


The engine was built around a high-pressure die-cast open-deck aluminum cylinder block. While the bore size and deck height are the same as in the 2.0L EcoBoost, the 2.3L engine block has enlarged oil and cooling passages and a structural ladder frame (strengthening ribs molded around the cylinders) with integrated main bearing caps. The increased displacement was achieved by applying a new forged 4340 steel crankshaft with a 94 mm stroke (2L has an 83.1 mm stroke). The engine also uses forged steel connecting rods (they are shorter than 2.0L conrods) and lightweight high-strength pistons with steel piston ring carriers and fully floating pins. The new pistons have a low-friction skirt coating and fewer oil drainage holes for better lubrication and lower friction. The bottom side of the cylinders is cooled with oil constantly sprayed by special oil jets inside the engine block. The bottom of the engine includes a chain-driven oil pump, balance shaft, and a die-cast deep-sump aluminum oil pan with a baffling area that helps prevent oil slosh and maintain oil delivery during active driving.

 

[Scooter]

2.3L MPC semi closed deck design.
Still do not know if the motor has cast iron cylinder sleeves. I cannot see any.
I would say the cylinders are hard coated.

This site shows how much Hp the closed deck, semi closed deck and open deck can support.
What is the difference between the TS, ST, and 2.3L cylinder blocks? – Engineered Motorsport Solutions

 

[Novastar]

I test drove both…2.3 first. I was shopping it against Tacoma’s 4 cyl. Liked Tacoma, but preferred Ranger. Then thought I’d try the 2.7 just to compare. Salesman said there was “only one on the lot” and it “wouldn’t last through the weekend.” I fell for it…bought it right there. I might be too gullible. But I got a great truck. And if truth be told, the 2.3L is just as good and would have saved me some money.

He wasn’t wrong the 2.7s sell out very quick and they don’t make nearly as many of them as the 2.3

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