Plug patch on tire shoulder

[Kit2523]

Tires are 2 weeks old. Had to emergency plug patched it. Should I replace this tire while the rest are still new or go with it?

Kit

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[They Call Me Bruce]

I would be good with the plug there without worries.

 

[embedded rock]

Plug it. Keep more plugs and a pump in the truck. Never know when a tire will get punctured.

 

[MasterCylinder]

Tires are 2 weeks old. Had to emergency plug patched it. Should I replace this tire while the rest are still new or go with it?

Kit

Do you not have any road hazard warranty?? Most tire shops will not patch that area of a tire for liability reasons. Tire manufactures have different "patch areas" in which they claim it's safe to patch. It ranges from, 1/4 of an inch from the sidewall to inch from the sidewall, your in that zone. You can contact the tire manufacturer an ask about it. Myself, if no tire hazard warranty, it would be a spare and I get another one but I'm on the highway a lot! Your choice in the matter really.

 

[Dre' Dawg]

I googled it and it summed up what I would do with the exception of the plug. If you can take it to a tire shop and have them put a patch from the inside is best in my opinion.

" Tire plugs are good for temporary emergency fixes on small (under 1/4 inch) punctures in the tread area only, allowing you to get to a shop, but they are generally not considered a safe, permanent repair by industry standards. The safest and most recommended method is a plug-patch combo, done from the inside, as plugs alone can loosen or fail over time, especially at high speeds, potentially leading to another flat or blowout, and should never be used on sidewalls.

 

[crawford]

Unfortunate. I had this happen in the same spot with the Hankooks my 2020 Ranger and I used it as an excuse to get some nicer tires (i did like the OEM Hankooks though).

I am sure you had all the usual lectures but i would not feel safe with my tire plugged like this. If it was farther from the edge and patched from the inside out manufacturers consider the tire as good as new. It is not possible to patch from the inside out where your damage is and i wasn't able to find any garage that would fix mine properly. I found a diagram from Hankook for my 2020 ranger that showed the safe area, i am sure you could find the same for you current tire and see that your tire is not officially repairable.

you are in some luck though, if your tire is only 2 weeks old and not a lot of miles on them you could at least get away with replacing just one tire. I could not and had to buy 4 as my ranger was about a year old when it happened to me. I think other more knowledgeable people or google might be able to chime in and say how new the tires have to be to not cause damage by replacing just one but i think that you are at least lucky that that is your case and you just need 1 tire. if i remember in my situation i could have replaced 2 tires but then i would always be a state where i had 2 new tires and 2 older tires and i did not want that.

this really sucks and i had it happen to me with my last 2 vehicles and i just ended up buying 4 new tires each time. i really can't drive around knowing my tire might blow out or at the very least end up needing to be changed on the side of the highway.

 

[crawford]

I googled it and it summed up what I would do with the exception of the plug. If you can take it to a tire shop and have them put a patch from the inside is best in my opinion.

" Tire plugs are good for temporary emergency fixes on small (under 1/4 inch) punctures in the tread area only, allowing you to get to a shop, but they are generally not considered a safe, permanent repair by industry standards. The safest and most recommended method is a plug-patch combo, done from the inside, as plugs alone can loosen or fail over time, especially at high speeds, potentially leading to another flat or blowout, and should never be used on sidewalls.

you are right that a tire fixed with a plug-patch combo is considered safe, but no one will do the plug patch combo this close to the tire edge. you say never to be used on sidewalls but that extends a bit up into the side of the tire tread too. some tire companies publish diagrams of where the safe spot is...i found one for my hankooks. it is usually only the middle part where the patch can be flat and also no chance of a steel belt being broken (i think anyway, my only knowledge on this comes from having had similar damage on 2 different vehicles). i had a similar argument with folks at my work who insisted that the plain old plug is safe but the guy who argued with me went and got his patched from the inside out about a month later because he kept having slow leaks. he hasn't had a problem since but he was lucky that his damage was in the middle of his tire.

 

[John E Davies]

Even plugs in “safe” areas of the tread can eventually start leaking again, the steel cords chafe against the rubber and then you get leakage, but a patch inside will prevent this. Long ago I had a plug (no patch) end up as a very slow leak after about a year. You canNOT re-plug an existing plugged repair!

Water entering will cause the steel to rust, making a catastrophic tread separation or blowout more possible. In areas where winter deicers - salt or magnesium chloride - are used, this invisible corrosion will happen dramatically faster.
https://www.carabinshaw.com/amp/uns...ds-persist-despite-strong-evidence-of-da.html

BTW part of my emergency kit is an air compressor and patch and plug kit - it is intended to get me back out of a remote area to where I can get the tire replaced in the event that my spare tire also goes flat..

John Davies
Spokane WA USA

 

[superj]

I have never had a plug leak or come loose. I would be fine eith a plug where you have it in that pic.

I have had to plug all kinds of tires on all kinds of vehicles. I have never actually taken a tire to get a patch though. I guess since the plugs held.

 

[Reddog99]

Is your spare tire the same as the other four? If, so, you could swap the spare tire onto the alum rim.

My experience with plug-patches is that they're pretty reliable if properly installed.

 

[ATestBishop]

I've used the worm type plugs with the reamer and install tool many times on a passenger car tire within tread area and I'm surprised how well they hold up and function. I think many tire shops will only dismount and do the involved inner tire patch process but with your TPMS functioning and a good spare your repair could be reliable long term. It's rough to pick up a thorn on a new tire and throw it away...

 

[Kit2523]

Thanks for all the inputs guys

Question… so far I have done about 1,250 miles on these tires. I measured the tread depth with my manual gauge to be just above 12/32nd. Brand new tire, from the spec sheet, is 13/32nd. So the difference will be little less than 1/32nd (0.6mm) across the rear axle. Would this cause any drivetrain issues in the long run if I changed only one tire? I plan on putting the plugged tire in the spare well.

Thanks in advance.

 

[John E Davies]

Thanks for all the inputs guys

Question… so far I have done about 1,250 miles on these tires. I measured the tread depth with my manual gauge to be just above 12/32nd. Brand new tire, from the spec sheet, is 13/32nd. So the difference will be little less than 1/32nd (0.6mm) across the rear axle. Would this cause any drivetrain issues in the long run if I changed only one tire? I plan on putting the plugged tire in the spare well.

Thanks in advance.

No problems whatsoever to the drivetrain, however the spare might deflate over time without your knowing about it. You can add a tire valve extension hose to the spare and let it hang down enough to reach with a gauge, check it every few months, at least. If it appears to be leak free, you can check less often. No need to drop it down except for cleaning and checking the winch for proper operation.
https://www.ranger6g.com/forum/thre...check-the-pressure-without-lowering-it.11101/

John Davies
Spokane WA USA

 

[Kit2523]

Unfortunate. I had this happen in the same spot with the Hankooks my 2020 Ranger and I used it as an excuse to get some nicer tires (i did like the OEM Hankooks though).

I am sure you had all the usual lectures but i would not feel safe with my tire plugged like this. If it was farther from the edge and patched from the inside out manufacturers consider the tire as good as new. It is not possible to patch from the inside out where your damage is and i wasn't able to find any garage that would fix mine properly. I found a diagram from Hankook for my 2020 ranger that showed the safe area, i am sure you could find the same for you current tire and see that your tire is not officially repairable.

you are in some luck though, if your tire is only 2 weeks old and not a lot of miles on them you could at least get away with replacing just one tire. I could not and had to buy 4 as my ranger was about a year old when it happened to me. I think other more knowledgeable people or google might be able to chime in and say how new the tires have to be to not cause damage by replacing just one but i think that you are at least lucky that that is your case and you just need 1 tire. if i remember in my situation i could have replaced 2 tires but then i would always be a state where i had 2 new tires and 2 older tires and i did not want that.

this really sucks and i had it happen to me with my last 2 vehicles and i just ended up buying 4 new tires each time. i really can't drive around knowing my tire might blow out or at the very least end up needing to be changed on the side of the highway.

Thanks for your reply.
I have clocked about 1,250 miles during the 2 weeks. Lost about 1/32nd of tread depth. I am considering getting one new tire and put this plugged on for the spare.

 

[Flak]

Thanks for your reply.
I have clocked about 1,250 miles during the 2 weeks. Lost about 1/32nd of tread depth. I am considering getting one new tire and put this plugged on for the spare.

I'm confused does the truck not come with a spare or is it a donut? I admit in my haste to purchase my go kart I haven't checked yet, I just assumed since all the wheels came in packs of 5 from ford it's like most trucks and comes with 5x the same t/w package.

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