Told by dealer six months to one year wait ALL Ranger models.

[medocbiga]

Fewer cars= more expensive = Fewer workers=more demand = sell Fewer cars at a higher price point costing the company less maximizing profit= all of us get fucked while corporations make a fortune

Yes, look this is the future of Ford and other Americans builders,Subaru have 30 days of delay but dealership have cars in lot!
Mainly Tesla is selling more cars than everyone!

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[BigDamnHeroes]

Yes, look this is the future of Ford and other Americans builders,Subaru have 30 days of delay but dealership have cars in lot!
Mainly Tesla is selling more cars than everyone!

"Cars in lot" is not necessarily always a good thing...if the cars are sitting there month after month after month because it's not what anyone is buying...the lot might as well be empty.

 

[Scole31]

I placed my order for a lariat yesterday and was told 6-8 months from yesterday

 

[Raynger24]

I placed my order for a lariat yesterday and was told 6-8 months from yesterday

Calling around to SEVERAL Ford dealers over the last few days. That seems to be the general time frame I am getting as well. I'm just going to chill and see how it shakes out. I can't controll what can't be controlled. Thanks for the info!

 

[RT46]

Initially my order was placed as retail, priority code 10 & I did get a email from Ford but after reading on this forum that all Raptor orders were to be placed as stock I did phone the GM at my dealer & he said that he couldn’t find anything that said that. He did email me a few days later saying that he had received a notification from Ford saying that all Raptor orders had to be changed to stock which he did do to their one allocation that is ordered to my specs which then made the email I had received from Ford irrelevant. I replied back & said Thank You & to have a nice summer because at that point, there’s really nothing else to do except wait & see what happens.

For what it is worth, this is exactly how it happened with my dealer. Same sequence of events.

 

[CACTUSGREYFX4]

I placed my order for a lariat yesterday and was told 6-8 months from yesterday

I too put in my order for one too and knew I would see it in the new year. Dealer didn't say anything but production doesn't start til Sept so I am thinking March at the latest. If it comes before that, that's a bonus.

 

[rwolfcastle]

I too put in my order for one too and knew I would see it in the new year. Dealer didn't say anything but production doesn't start til Sept so I am thinking March at the latest. If it comes before that, that's a bonus.

Production is starting mid August.

 

[telenerd]

I can’t imagine the demand is very high for the new Ranger except the Raptor. Take a good look at this forum, not a ton of active users unlike Bronco6g.

I’m sure the wait won’t be all that long depending on what options are selected. I plan waiting for my order until the 2.7 pricing comes out and I can actually see one on the lot.

 

[Raynger24]

I can’t imagine the demand is very high for the new Ranger except the Raptor. Take a good look at this forum, not a ton of active users unlike Bronco6g.

I’m sure the wait won’t be all that long depending on what options are selected. I plan waiting for my order until the 2.7 pricing comes out and I can actually see one on the lot.

Telenerd, I tentatively believe you are correct initially. However, I think when people start seeing the 6G Ranger on the road, and what it has to offer, it's going to take off. From your post, I assume you want one or are considering one correct? I do, and others on the forum do, and people that don't know about the forum as well do I'm sure. If you don't mind me asking, what draws you to your conclusion regarding low demand?

 

[telenerd]

Telenerd, I tentatively believe you are correct initially. However, I think when people start seeing the 6G Ranger on the road, and what it has to offer, it's going to take off. From your post, I assume you want one or are considering one correct? I do, and others on the forum do, and people that don't know about the forum as well do I'm sure. If you don't mind me asking, what draws you to your conclusion regarding low demand?

Overall in my area the f150 and super duty’s dominates. You can get more payload, same features, and around the same price. The old rangers when I have seen them on lots sit there awhile and don’t see very many on the roads. I’m in Wyoming so that probably explains a few things for demand.

 

[goalieThreeOne]

I can’t imagine the demand is very high for the new Ranger except the Raptor. Take a good look at this forum, not a ton of active users unlike Bronco6g.

I’m sure the wait won’t be all that long depending on what options are selected. I plan waiting for my order until the 2.7 pricing comes out and I can actually see one on the lot.

I don’t think it’s fair to use forum participation as a benchmark for popularity. The Bronco is an enthusiast vehicle. People that buy those are excited about them. Nobody goes into a showroom and buys a Bronco unless they already intended to. Put it another way. A Chevy Corvette forum is going to be ten times more active than a Kia Soul forum. But there are definitely more Kia Souls being sold than Chevy Corvettes.

The Ranger is not an enthusiast vehicle outside of the Raptor trim. Doesn’t mean it won’t be popular.

I think the more likely explanation is simply that even if people know about it, they’re being told it will be a while before they get it if they place a custom order but there are stock orders coming to showrooms sooner than that so they’re going to try their luck with whatever’s on hand starting august/September.

 

[nappy]

Early in the pandemic, we had an entire shipping route blocked off for over a week (Evergiven in the Suez). And then illnesses, infection, and shut down reduced the labor pool at all the docks around the world. Containers started piling up and it never recovered. Pre-pandemic tariffs reduced the available vendor pool for specialized materials (like electrical grade steel for EV’s and Hyrbids). And even when you could get material, infection, and wage disputes made many facilities short handed on labor. Then there were the trucker shortages (ongoing) and the rail car shortages (ongoing). You can’t get things anywhere these days.

All that contributes to creating a massive backlog. Some backlog is always healthy. But excessive backlog is difficult to manage. You either have to increase production or decrease demand. The only way to catch up on backlog is to have more orders shipped than you are getting in, and that is not happening. When factories say they are facing supply constraints, what that means is that they’re constrained in the ability to increase production over normal volume to “catch up”. Factories work on an idea called Just In Time manufacturing. This means they don’t stockpile tens of thousands of units of available parts. They order them in batches as needed. This reduces the need for floor space and lowers invested capital which looks good on a balance sheet. Even if they had, they would have burnt through that supply months ago. So they’re constrained on production, only able to run the two shifts at MAP. As far as reducing demand, well they’ve been raising prices both to cover material increases and labor increases but also to try and limit demand. But it’s not working.

“Supply chain constraints” sounds like a nebulous concept unless you actually understand how manufacturing and supply chain works. I’m a little tired of reading in these threads giving Ford crap about it and falsely calling them “excuses”. They’re not. I work for a manufacturer in an unrelated industry and the last three years has been the most challenging and stressful of my career. It’s driven many of my peers to quit or retire early. My customers have lost millions of dollars and thousands of man hours of labor due to delays in getting product. And unfortunately there’s no end in sight.

Our world as consumers is extremely interconnected and complex. Please have some compassion for the thousands folks in these plants, the laborers, the planners, the schedulers, the dealers salespersons who have nothing to sell, and the transporters, mostly hard working Americans, who are living these nightmares every day. For them a delay or slowdown might mean the end of their job. Surely if your truck takes a little longer than you’d like for it to get to you, you can have some patience.

It's tough walking into a dealer, and before you've asked anything about a vehicle, they spew there's a $5K markup(or whatever number it is) on a vehicle that you've never even asked about. I simply state that I don't do markups. They could care less and neither can I. Having sympathy for a dealer or for all those "stressed out" working in the supply chain sector, please, give me freaking break.

 

[nappy]

Fortunately the CHIP act is putting money into developing a domestic semiconductor industry.

As for Walmart… well, we’ve seen them putting American stores out of business for decades and now they’re putting American manufacturing out of business as well. I’m proud to say I haven’t given them a dime of my money for seven years for whatever little that’s worth. Point is, always buy local where possible, and support businesses that put Americans to work.

Nah, when your "local" businesses (a.k.a dealers) are just out to pad their pockets, I'll buy wherever I can get the best deal. If this means out of state, online, etc.

 

[goalieThreeOne]

It's tough walking into a dealer, and before you've asked anything about a vehicle, they spew there's a $5K markup(or whatever number it is) on a vehicle that you've never even asked about. I simply state that I don't do markups. They could care less and neither can I. Having sympathy for a dealer or for all those "stressed out" working in the supply chain sector, please, give me freaking break.

I bet you don’t tip, either.

Sales people work on commission. No product, no sale, no commission. Nothing to bring home to their family. No way to put food on the table. Sales people don’t set prices. They don’t set markups. They’d sell you a car for zero dollars if it got them some commission. Just because someone works for an organization, didn’t make them responsible for that organizations decisions. It’s almost always management that you’re mad at. It’s an important distinction that we as a society have somehow forgotten. You may be fortunate to work in a role that hasn’t been affected by the global supply chain issues, but that doesn’t mean you can’t be understanding of them and it doesn’t mean they aren’t real. And it definitely doesn’t mean you’re better than them either, you’re just a grouch.

 

[nappy]

I bet you don’t tip, either.

Sales people work on commission. No product, no sale, no commission. Nothing to bring home to their family. No way to put food on the table. Sales people don’t set prices. They don’t set markups. They’d sell you a car for zero dollars if it got them some commission. Just because someone works for an organization, didn’t make them responsible for that organizations decisions. It’s almost always management that you’re mad at. It’s an important distinction that we as a society have somehow forgotten. You may be fortunate to work in a role that hasn’t been affected by the global supply chain issues, but that doesn’t mean you can’t be understanding of them and it doesn’t mean they aren’t real. And it definitely doesn’t mean you’re better than them either, you’re just a grouch.

You must not recognize that the dealer model and having sales people will be a thing of the past? Most OEM's are moving to a Metaverse model - you pick and choose online and never have to deal with a sales person. Ford CEO has gone on record many times talking about the poor sales commission model as it's just leads to greed.

Same will be happening in real-estate. Brokers will be out as the middle person. It's all in the works.

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