Ford Performance Tune Released for Ranger Raptor for 455 HP / 536 LB-FT Torque

[Crapblaster]

I don't want a warranty discussion either I've avoided that diatribe here like the plague.

By choice after talking with them, I am staging everything on the ProCal device myself. I'll use my FP account and plug it into one of my computers, grab the current firmware, plug into the truck and marry to my VIN and backup my base calibration file, and then upload it to FP and download the updated cal file from them. Then when the mobile tech arrives I'll just have him plug the device in and apply the updated Cal file. He's going to do in my office's parking lot along with the recall for the door modules.

From reading the info that came with my ProCal4, at that point I can either call the toll-free number provided, or email FP with my RO invoice along with my VIN and contact info to register for their additional warranty.

This sounds like what I am going to do. Except take it to the dealer and have it done when I get the window recall done. Does the Mobile service give you a receipt with the tune install mentioned on it? I might go that route if so.
The only thing I can think of really going wrong with the engines is the cam phasers. And that shouldn't be affected by the tune at all.

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[T-Rev]

I wanted the ProCal registered to my FP account, so I temporarily changed the password and shared it with my dealership.

 

[Catalyst]

This sounds like what I am going to do. Except take it to the dealer and have it done when I get the window recall done. Does the Mobile service give you a receipt with the tune install mentioned on it? I might go that route if so.
The only thing I can think of really going wrong with the engines is the cam phasers. And that shouldn't be affected by the tune at all.

Yea it’s just the mobile portion of my local dealer’s service department, and they are providing a receipt for work done.

 

[Bmadda]

Watched the video last night... I understood their goal of the methodology they used - but it was a bit flawed. Any remap of the ECU/TCU should be followed by some time driving for learning to process. You could see in his post tune pulls that boost was changing each time, and shifts will get optimized too. Also, would have been nice to know fuel being used. I have seen someone do pre tune and post tune dyno runs back-to-back in another video, and the numbers were in line with Ford Performance's estimates, so I think it's worth the money/upgrade.

That being said, your summary about the tune and seat of the pants review all makes sense to me @cc1999

I'm waiting for mine to get installed by the mobile service guys along with the door module recall. They can't get to me until the 22nd, and I don't want to deal with taking into the shop for this stuff logistically. I am fully capable of doing this myself, but they are only charging me $150 to do the application of the cal file, which I am doing so I can register for the 3yr/36K warranty. Cheap insurance IMHO.

Pretty much everybody put that in the youtube comments...retry after 500 miles or so! Still .5 sec ET is pretty impressive! In drag racing, it's not often you can shave .5 sec for $800!

 

[Catalyst]

Pretty much everybody put that in the youtube comments...retry after 500 miles or so! Still .5 sec ET is pretty impressive! In drag racing, it's not often you can shave .5 sec for $800!

I don't read the comments section I'm with you on the performance increase being a value!

 

[Rapture2423]

What’s the max turbo boost PSI you all are seeing with this tune?

 

[MAV]

I saw 25 PSI on a full throttle run in Sport mode.

 

[Rapture2423]

I saw 25 PSI on a full throttle run in Sport mode.

Thanks for quick response. Did you record this on the ProCal tool or on the dash MyView gauge?

Also, do you by chance have a TurboSmart BOV?

 

[MAV]

Just saw it on the dash. I haven't done any logging on the ProCal tool yet. And no BOV.

 

[AlloyPony]

Watched the video last night... I understood their goal of the methodology they used - but it was a bit flawed. Any remap of the ECU/TCU should be followed by some time driving for learning to process.

100%. This has always driven me nuts over the years, watching people on YouTube flash the ECU on a vehicle and then immediately run the heck out of it to see if there is any difference. My goodness... Apparently people don't understand adaptives on modern vehicles.

 

[Deleted member 9086]

100%. This has always driven me nuts over the years, watching people on YouTube flash the ECU on a vehicle and then immediately run the heck out of it to see if there is any difference. My goodness... Apparently people don't understand adaptives on modern vehicles.

There’s really no such thing as an AI or learning ECU technology. ECU have no capacity to learn or adapt, (AI capability). It’s a wives tale.

There are hundreds, some times thousands of fuel trims and timing tables, logs and bins, in proprietary and aftermarket ECU software tuning. Depends upon the complexity of the engine and system. The ECU simply adjusts very quickly, based upon what the engine sensor, fuel utilized and ambient & altitude conditions are based within the basic programmed ECU parameters are calling for.

Most all of these andjustments are instantaneous, otherwise milliseconds. Esample; Timing maybe pulled due to a lower grade octane being utilized but the ECU doesn’t learn or adapts it simply adjusts based upon its designed operating parameters.

OEM as well as aftermarket software tuning, also include safety and parameters in the form of; boost and torque limiters. What aftermarket tuning does is simply; adjust by raising or removing those limiters based on the softwares designed parameters and specifications.

There are also emission considerations which are limited by the specific tune. This can drastically affect even some some electromechanical operations such as; TB openings at WOT. Now-a-days, most TB won’t open to more than 95% at WOT and depending upon rpms, decrease at higher rpm’s from 5700-6000.

Once a tune is installed, the safety parameters, AFR trims, timing, along with boost and torque limitations change, based upon engine demand are on tap and available immediately. If a specific tune calls for 93 or higher octane rating and you utilize less, it will simply adjust fuel trims and pulls timing to prevent knock, until the proper fuel is introduced. Thus limiting optimal hp production.

So to say, there’s a specific adaptive period for an aftermarket tune is simply incorrect also. When the tune is uploaded to the ECU, all the newer parameters are almost immediately available, depending upon present fuel trims, current timing, octane and engine load demand etc.???

 

[AlloyPony]

There’s really no such thing as an adaptive or learning ECU technology. ECU have no capacity to learn or adapt, (AI capability). It’s a wives tale.

There are hundreds, some times thousands of fuel trims and timing tables, logs and bins, in proprietary and aftermarket ECU software tuning. Depends upon the complexity of the engine and system. The ECU simply adjusts very quickly, based upon what the engine sensor, fuel utilized and ambient & altitude conditions are calling for.

Most all of these andjustments are instantaneous, otherwise milliseconds. Timing maybe pulled due to a lower grade octane being utilized but the ECU doesn’t learn or adapt, it simply adjusts based upon its designed operating parameters.

OEM as well as aftermarket software tuning, also include safety and parameters in the form of; boost and torque limiters. What aftermarket tuning does is simply; adjust by raising or removing those limiters based on the softwares designed parameters and specifications.

There are also emission considerations which are limited by the specific tune. This can drastically affect even some some electromechanical operations such as; TB openings at WOT. Now-a-days, most TB won’t open to more than 95% at WOT and depending upon rpms, decrease at higher rpm’s from 5700-6000.

Once a tune is installed, the safety parameters, AFR trims, timing, along with boost and torque limitations change, based upon engine demand are on tap and available immediately. If a specific tune calls for 93 or higher octane rating and you utilize less, it will simply adjust fuel trims and pull timing to prevent knock, until the proper fuel is introduced. Thus limiting optimal hp production.

So to say, there’s a specific adaptive period for an aftermarket tune is simply incorrect. When the tune is uploaded to the ECU, all the newer parameters are almost immediately available, depending upon present fuel trims, current timing, octane and engine load demand.???

You should email that to the OEs then, particularly Ford, who warn even in the owners manual that the vehicle "learns" your driving habits over time. And copy the service departments, who will show you service manuals that indicate that the vehicle learns over a period of time after having all its modules reset. And might as well CC: all the aftermarket tuners who say the same when they tune your vehicle with their own files.

Even as far back as 2003 my brand new Ranger FX4 had "adaptive learning" according to Ford's own materials.

 

[Deleted member 9086]

You should email that to the OEs then, particularly Ford, who warn even in the owners manual that the vehicle "learns" your driving habits over time. And copy the service departments, who will show you service manuals that indicate that the vehicle learns over a period of time after having all its modules reset. And might as well CC: all the aftermarket tuners who say the same when they tune your vehicle with their own files.

Even as far back as 2003 my brand new Ranger FX4 had "adaptive learning" according to Ford's own materials.

Please tell me or show me when or where any automobile ECU has been given AI or learning capabilities ever? Ought to be a quick search of absolutely nothing. You simple have a misconception of the actual word. I’ll attempt to define it further.

The ECU may adapt, within the controlling software parameters provided, but it doesn't have a learning capability.

Your “driving habits“ as referenced are simply; altitude, ambient conditions, octane fuel used, throttle application, and general engine sensory input etc, nothing more.

It will adjust/adapt according within those software parameters to your driving habits, otherwise advance or pull timing, so the engine will provide optimal or restricted performance. Read sensory input from BCM, TCU and control their functions etc.

All this happens within milliseconds, not minutes, hours or days. I don’t care what buzz words Ford media and marketing utilizes. This is who writes the owners manuals. Nor am I going to argue with you over marketing buzz words, they’ve decided to use in their owners manuals.

Today there are very few actual learning capable computers/AI‘s, that take up extremely large square footage space in buildings. These are examples of learning computers.

Here’s a basic synopsis of todays ECU, (they adjust and adapt);

https://www.ancel.com/blogs/news/the-evolution-ecu-systems-in-vehicles

For instance, in engine management, the ECU uses inputs like air temperature, engine speed, and throttle position to calculate the ideal fuel-air mixture, ignition timing, and idle speed. This precise control results in optimized engine performance, better fuel economy, and lower emissions. Beyond engine management, ECUs also oversee systems like anti-lock braking (ABS) and electronic stability control (ESC), crucial for vehicle safety.

https://atpelectronics.co.uk/does-car-ecu-learn/

The concept of ECU learning refers to the ability of the engine control unit to adapt and adjust its parameters based on the data it collects from various sensors present in the vehicle. These sensors monitor factors such as engine speed, throttle position, air intake temperature, oxygen levels in exhaust gases, and many more.

Just As I’ve stated above.

I get it, you simply don’t understand the concept in general. I hope these two websites will help explain and give you a little better understanding. Buzz words like some manufactures utilizes, confuse people regarding the actual function of these systems.

I‘ve learned how to bench tune and have done so for the past 10 or so years. The basic concept hasn’t changed in those 10+ years. I also don’t want to talk over your head with allot of technical terminology that will do nothing but confuse you further.

So, referring to an ECU as a learning computer is defined as adjusting and adaptation, nothing more.???

 

[2017Raptor]

This is just a seat of the pants feel update. On a straight away went to pass a vehicle that was slower than limit. Without a doubt 3/4 throttle pinned me back way more than my 2017 raptor that has 450hp/515tourque. So far real happy with the tune and definitely worth the price!

 

[RacerX]

Please tell me or show me when or where any automobile ECU has been given AI or learning capabilities ever? Ought to be a quick search of absolutely nothing. You simple have a misconception of the actual word. I’ll attempt to define it further.

The ECU may adapt, within the controlling software parameters provided, but it doesn't have a learning capability.

Your “driving habits“ as referenced are simply; altitude, ambient conditions, octane fuel used, throttle application, and general engine sensory input etc, nothing more.

It will adjust/adapt according within those software parameters to your driving habits, otherwise advance or pull timing, so the engine will provide optimal or restricted performance. Read sensory input from BCM, TCU and control their functions etc.

All this happens within milliseconds, not minutes, hours or days. I don’t care what buzz words Ford media and marketing utilizes. This is who writes the owners manuals. Nor am I going to argue with you over marketing buzz words, they’ve decided to use in their owners manuals.

Today there are very few actual learning capable computers/AI‘s, that take up extremely large square footage space in buildings. These are examples of learning computers.

Here’s a basic synopsis of todays ECU, (they adjust and adapt);

https://www.ancel.com/blogs/news/the-evolution-ecu-systems-in-vehicles



https://atpelectronics.co.uk/does-car-ecu-learn/



Just As I’ve stated above.

I get it, you simply don’t understand the concept in general. I hope these two websites will help explain and give you a little better understanding. Buzz words like some manufactures utilizes, confuse people regarding the actual function of these systems.

I‘ve learned how to bench tune and have done so for the past 10 or so years. The basic concept hasn’t changed in those 10+ years. I also don’t want to talk over your head with allot of technical terminology that will do nothing but confuse you further.

So, referring to an ECU as a learning computer is defined as adjusting and adaptation, nothing more.???

Octane Adjust Ratio (OAR) and How it works for Ford Vehicles - Customer Support Center - Confluence (atlassian.net)

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