Bigmikey65
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Does anyone know if the calipers/rotors are different in the Lariat and Raptor ? Are they the same setup ?
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I can tell you that my 2024 XLT brakes (10,000 miles) have major problems that Ford is not interested in addressing and I'm currently working with the BBB to resolve the issue. 1. Brake pedal is very soft and routinely grabs at different heights and many times travels past the level of the gas pedal. 2. Sometimes they grab at a 1" depression and sometimes at 3" with the pedal continuing to travel to the floor. 3. When starting the truck with light to moderate pressure on the brake pedal, the pedal sinks to the floor. They had a Ford field tech look at it and he "inspected things" but didn't even bother to bleed the brake lines or test the master cylinder. The sponginess and softness which they consider "normal" would make me stay clear of another purchase from Ford.I am currently seriously considering buying a new Ranger Raptor. My only concern about the performance of the vehicle is braking. The reviews and comments that I have read are not favorable. My current Wrangler and H-D Fat Boy (even with PM brakes) are both poor in the braking department. To be honest - I’m tired of it.
Are the rotors and calipers in the 2025 Ranger Lariat the same as the rotors and calipers in the 2025 Ranger Raptor ? The braking performance of the two vehicles looks similar when you take the Raptors higher weight into account. (70 mph to 0 mph braking tests).
You sound like a racing driver, tooI think what people miss is the characteristic's that brakes exhibit. The two most common are bite and torque.
initial bite can be very misleading. You hit the brakes and you get this strong initial bite. This gives immediate confidence and that is what can be misleading. You feel that the brakes are strong at initial moment and if they do not continue into torque you wind up in trouble.
I prefer less initial bite and loads of torque that I can modulate. To me this is ideal. Also, with a high bite braking system you can abruptly transfer weight to the front and at times that is not wanted. Grip is simply the movement of weight around the 4 corners of the vehicle. I want to be able to move that weight with as much precision as possible. Steering, throttle and brake inputs are all we have to accomplish this.
That’s my 2 cents.
Yeah, how could you tell… lol. Former life. It’s just something I’ll have to train myself to understand and deal with as long as I run the stock set up. As many have pointed out the KO3’s are also huge factor as are all tires when it comes to all demands when it comes to grip.You sound like a racing driver, too
I like progressive feel, when initial bite is strong without too much pedal free movement, and is easy to modulate after initial bite.
Problem with RR is, that you never know where is the initial bite - after 1” or 3” free travel, you never know. With longer free travel you must use more force and vise versa.
After driving sport / race cars, I find it very hard to trust RR brakes 🥲
Otherwise just a great truck.
For sport cars, you can use pads like Carbon Lorraine number 6, EBC Blue etc but not sure which pad would give similar feeling to RR ?