Told by dealer six months to one year wait ALL Ranger models.

[Ranger#5?]

That certainly makes sense what you and others have mentioned. I guess what I am still a little confused on is, all these suppliers who closed or sold off, and all these shortages on transport personnel, doesn't that create a new demand for someone the capitalize on?

If theres money to be made, since all these car manufacturers are starving for parts and transport, shouldn't there be companies flocking to supply them?

Truck drivers take something like 3 years to fully train (IIRC) and get their CDL and extra certifications for things like hazardous materials, 3rd trailer, etc. Walmart actually had opened a training academy of sorts a couple years ago recruiting and training new drivers. haven't heard of it for some time now. Look at the back of semi-trailers on the road in front of or passing you- they nearly all have "now hiring drivers" signs. It costs a ton of money to become an independent owner/operator too with even used rigs selling for more than $100k.

No easy answers here I'm afraid even for us Capitalist thinkers!

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[EcoRanger]

Ford is building ‘23 Mavericks till sometime in October.. and then will switch to ‘24

Due to high demand, the current model year is no longer available for retail order. Contact your dealer for more information.

 

[BigDamnHeroes]

Due to high demand, the current model year is no longer available for retail order. Contact your dealer for more information.

And? That doesn't mean they're not still building them.. it means.. just like it says.. you can't order it.. doesn't say they're not making them anymore, which is what you claimed.

 

[Raynger24]

That certainly makes sense what you and others have mentioned. I guess what I am still a little confused on is, all these suppliers who closed or sold off, and all these shortages on transport personnel, doesn't that create a new demand for someone the capitalize on?

If theres money to be made, since all these car manufacturers are starving for parts and transport, shouldn't there be companies flocking to supply them?

Jeff, regarding big rig transport Ranger#5? answered that part pretty well. I don't want to get political, things get too heated. Let's just say there is a BIG PUSH for "going green" and the over-regulations are KILLING small companies, I personally believe on purpose to kill the ICE engine. Many can't afford to re-open when they close their doors, it's very sad really, and BAD for us! As for the high tech suppliers question, generally, with some exceptions, are not talking about small "My Pillow" companies, car manufactures can get most of the small stuff. It's the high tech multi million-billion companies we are talking here that U.S. car companies rely on. There are virtually NO OTHER U.S. companies to fill in for those that have gone to China (or whatever third world country were labor is cheaper). To open up a new chip plant or other high tech plant costs literally billions (with a "B") to start up. Then to operate at U.S. wages , overhead, ridiculous regulations, they can't compete. This is why many U.S. based companies developed initially in the U.S. have or are leaving. As goalieThreeOne stated there is the CHIP act putting money into developing a domestic semiconductor industry. HOWEVER, is it enough money, are the incentives good enough, and it will take time. Time we are running out of. People truly don't understand how much U.S. manufacturing ability and the tech know-how is draining away in the U.S. as these now former "American" companies sell out to China. There literally is the inability to replace many of these companies that took decades to build up in the U.S. We have lost many of the highly trained workers to China. As for producing the machinery? The machinery is expensive, and now, much of it can only be made in...you guessed it...China!

To Ford's credit they recognize the chip problem and here is Ford's CEO response.

Can’t find chips? Make your own.

Ford is taking a do-it-yourself approach to addressing the severe shortage in chips that has slowed its production lines and snarled supply chains around the world.

The carmaker announced a partnership with the semiconductor manufacturer GlobalFoundries. One of the last "trusted by U.S. Government" chip makers left to develop its own chips. Initially these will be designed for Ford vehicles, but the companies said a larger goal is to expand U.S. chip production. Jim Farley, Ford’s C.E.O., said that the auto industry, and the U.S. in general, needs “greater independence” to develop new technologies, and that requires control over chip production."


Again, this will TAKE TIME and no guarantee it will actually take off as there have been the usual problems trying to get two big companies together. I hope that helps answer your question(s) at least the way I see it.

 

[richman555]

I really don't expect the same demand for the Ranger as the Maverick. There is also a lot of competition in the mid-size truck market (Chevy, Toyota, GMC, etc). I would be surprised if it takes 6 months on a Ranger order.

 

[Raynger24]

I really don't expect the same demand for the Ranger as the Maverick. There is also a lot of competition in the mid-size truck market (Chevy, Toyota, GMC, etc). I would be surprised if it takes 6 months on a Ranger order.

The Ranger is a popular truck, and with this being the new 6th Gen, people are going to want it for sure (I think anyway..Lol). While the Maverick is nice (I owned one) it is not able to fill many of the needs a Ranger is capable of.

According to media.ford.com... " The Ford brand sold more than 1 million pickups around the world in 2022 and part of that sales success comes from Ranger. In the last decade Ranger sales have increased 112 percent globally, with over 86,000 sold so far this year."

In reading on the competition so far, the new Ranger holds up very well. Personally, six months only would be a blessing. Again, we still are not even into scheduling and possible constraints, so realisitically we are going to have to see how this shakes out. I thank you for your input!

 

[Ranger#5?]

I really don't expect the same demand for the Ranger as the Maverick. There is also a lot of competition in the mid-size truck market (Chevy, Toyota, GMC, etc). I would be surprised if it takes 6 months on a Ranger order.

6 mos based on what exactly? Curious to see how your timeline would work on this from (proper) order submission and acknowledgement email until it arrives at your local dealer.

 

[SGT Ranger]

The Ranger is a popular truck (I assume that is why we are in this forum) and in my opinion, other then price point, is a far better choice than the Maverick.

According to media.ford.com... " The Ford brand sold more than 1 million pickups around the world in 2022 and part of that sales success comes from Ranger. In the last decade Ranger sales have increased 112 percent globally, with over 86,000 sold so far this year."

In reading on the competition so far, the new Ranger holds up very well. Personally, six months only would be a blessing. Again, we still are not even into scheduling and possible constraints, so we will have to see.

The part they left off: The Ranger is the 1:1 replacement for oversea sales on F-150s.

America gets F-150, everyone else gets Ranger.

Basing any Ranger information on global data is a huge no-no.

I am not confident the Ranger is here to remain in the USA and will get shelved again. All the better reason to get a RRaptor now with a small ADM attached and get the last laugh.

All of this stems from Ford's failure to cement a "Ranger Culture" here in the states, which Toyota gladly filled that void with their Tacoma model. This whole endeavor of the Ranger probably failed the minute that pulled it from the US 10 years ago and they forfeited building that community to other brands. I think that ship has sailed sort of thing.

 

[Raynger24]

The part they left off: The Ranger is the 1:1 replacement for oversea sales on F-150s.

America gets F-150, everyone else gets Ranger.

Basing any Ranger information on global data is a huge no-no.

I am not confident the Ranger is here to remain in the USA and will get shelved again. All the better reason to get a RRaptor now with a small ADM attached and get the last laugh.

All of this stems from Ford's failure to cement a "Ranger Culture" here in the states, which Toyota gladly filled that void with their Tacoma model. This whole endeavor of the Ranger probably failed the minute that pulled it from the US 10 years ago and they forfeited building that community to other brands. I think that ship has sailed sort of thing.

I see your line of reasoning regarding the the mystique of "Culture" for certain vehicles relative to build times. Personally, when I see a vehicle like that, the mystique, over time, fades and they become "just common" to me. In doing my research, I like the initial reviews, and I prefer the looks over the other makes. And, I REALLY LIKE the looks of the 6G Ranger. My thought is once people start seeing the new Ranger they will want it and sales will go up. Only time will tell. So, for now it suites me just fine if the orders stay low. However it turns out, at least I will have what I want.

 

[pyates999]

I see your line of reasoning regarding the lack of the mystique of a "Ranger Culture" as there is for the F-150, or Tacoma. Honestly I'm of two minds on this reflecting your reasoning. I personally really like the looks of the 6th gen and hope it takes off in the States. Or, as you said no matter what now..."The ship has sailed." Since I personally really like the looks, I'm probably still purchasing, but thank you for the "food for thought!"

In 2004 I purchased a new F150 FX4 Supercab with leather & a moonroof because I really did like it & I still have it & still like it after 148k miles. At the end of 2022 I began looking at a few different trucks & settled on a Ranger Tremor & really began researching about it but then I came across a article saying that the 2023 was the last year for that style & then I saw the Ranger Raptor. It was the first time in many years that a truck made me say “wow, look at that!!” After that first time of seeing it I knew I had to have one & fortunately I located a dealer willing to sell me their one allocation to my spec for MSRP. I honestly feel like I’m so blessed & if it takes a year to get it, I’m good!!

 

[Raynger24]

In 2004 I purchased a new F150 FX4 Supercab with leather & a moonroof because I really did like it & I still have it & still like it after 148k miles. At the end of 2022 I began looking at a few different trucks & settled on a Ranger Tremor & really began researching about it but then I came across a article saying that the 2023 was the last year for that style & then I saw the Ranger Raptor. It was the first time in many years that a truck made me say “wow, look at that!!” After that first time of seeing it I knew I had to have one & fortunately I located a dealer willing to sell me their one allocation to my spec for MSRP. I honestly feel like I’m so blessed & if it takes a year to get it, I’m good!!

Well stated, that's exactly how I feel about the 6G.

 

[G L Rockwell]

The part they left off: The Ranger is the 1:1 replacement for oversea sales on F-150s.

America gets F-150, everyone else gets Ranger.

Basing any Ranger information on global data is a huge no-no.

I am not confident the Ranger is here to remain in the USA and will get shelved again. All the better reason to get a RRaptor now with a small ADM attached and get the last laugh.

All of this stems from Ford's failure to cement a "Ranger Culture" here in the states, which Toyota gladly filled that void with their Tacoma model. This whole endeavor of the Ranger probably failed the minute that pulled it from the US 10 years ago and they forfeited building that community to other brands. I think that ship has sailed sort of thing.

I've got my name on two lists both at msrp. One is the RRaptor and the other is a 24 Tacoma. Currently on my 4th tacoma, both have their own unique attributes and are obviously not comparable. Either way, despite which one I end up with I'm confident I won't be disappointed.

The Tacoma Pro is really growing on me though.

 

[Richard Conley]

I ordered a Raptor on May 26th, the day order banks opened. My dealer told me then that at minimum it would be six to eight months.

So did I but looking at other posts in Raptor threads there essentially are/maybe no retail orders and dealers are re-doing the order as "to stack". The opinions seem to be that all Rangers initially will be stock only which is probably what is delaying retail orders. A Raptor order not converted from retail may be in some sort of limbo. Did you get an email, a lot did that entered retail orders before Ford started only taking stock orders and your dealer should have re-entered your order as stock? Did your dealer not tell you about that the one they are allocated would be to stock, mine called told me and re-entered my specs in their one stock order. The level of differences in dealers is baffling. As far as non-Raptor 2024 Rangers who knows, in 2019 I got my retail order before the dealer got any for stock.

 

[pyates999]

So did I but looking at other posts in Raptor threads there essentially are/maybe no retail orders and dealers are re-doing the order as "to stack". The opinions seem to be that all Rangers initially will be stock only which is probably what is delaying retail orders. A Raptor order not converted from retail may be in some sort of limbo. Did you get an email, a lot did that entered retail orders before Ford started only taking stock orders and your dealer should have re-entered your order as stock? Did your dealer not tell you about that the one they are allocated would be to stock, mine called told me and re-entered my specs in their one stock order. The level of differences in dealers is baffling. As far as non-Raptor 2024 Rangers who knows, in 2019 I got my retail order before the dealer got any for stock.

Initially my order was placed as retail, priority code 10 & I did get a email from Ford but after reading on this forum that all Raptor orders were to be placed as stock I did phone the GM at my dealer & he said that he couldn’t find anything that said that. He did email me a few days later saying that he had received a notification from Ford saying that all Raptor orders had to be changed to stock which he did do to their one allocation that is ordered to my specs which then made the email I had received from Ford irrelevant. I replied back & said Thank You & to have a nice summer because at that point, there’s really nothing else to do except wait & see what happens.

 

[dshandy]

Just waiting for a potential update here today… give us some news!

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