2024 Ranger Raptor ADM Market Adjustment Price = CRAZY

[Logan04]

I hear you. But theres plenty of alternative vehicles i could get for cheaper. Its not that important anymore the further i research this. $5k is the cheapest so far, a $10k, and now two at $20k marked up (these two are actually owned by the same owner.)

this isn’t a Christmas PlayStation 5. It’s a $57,000 MSRP vehicle. And i hope Ford will learn to reallocate inventory to dealers that will comply to sensibility.

This is what my dealer gets insanely pissed off about. They charge MSRP or lower on every single vehicle they sell. I’m getting my RR for what the sticker says. She gets angry cause Ford explicitly tells dealers not to charge over MSRP but then does not stop giving allocations or punishing them in any other way.

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[Raynger24]

This is what my dealer gets insanely pissed off about. They charge MSRP or lower on every single vehicle they sell. I’m getting my RR for what the sticker says. She gets angry cause Ford explicitly tells dealers not to charge over MSRP but then does not stop giving allocations or punishing them in any other way.

Well, that answered a question I had...is there any teeth in Ford's MSRP/ADM admonishments to dealerships.. Of course we all wish the practice would stop but w/out any "teeth" to it from Ford, it won't.

Since that will probably remain the case, and you see the value in the RR, I see SGT Ranger's logic as he obviously has put some deep research in the ADM he paid now vs paying higher down the road.

 

[Stetson]

$5000 ADM is the average, no ADM can be found but is uncommon.

Anything over 5k tell them to eat a bag of dicks.

Before you turn your nose up at $5,000 expand your thought process outside the normal box. Look at how MSRP is increasing annually and then take into account allocation size.

What I am saying is if you cannot readily find one without ADM and you're going to choose to wait for future batches you may end up paying $5,000 or something similar to it when all is said and done just the natural course of price increases.

Would you rather pay $5,000 and enjoy the truck now or pay $5,000 later at some undisclosed time for the same truck?

The worst case scenario is a year or two down the line you end up paying more due to natural price increases and you still have to contend with a $5,000 ADM. Now you're paying $10,000 total.

But here's the thing people think that these things are going to be readily available and sooner or later dealerships are going to drop the ADM shenanigans but all you have to do is look at something like the bronco Raptor to see this is a pipe dream.

I'm telling you the people on here who are able to purchase them without ADM are just anecdotal and not anywhere near the norm and they happen to live in an area where the dealership where they're just get that lucky.

And any current allocations not being snapped up by customers will surely be snapped up by the dealership themselves for their lot inventory so the pool of overall raptors and your ability to get one at whatever price you decide on basically shrinks everyday that goes by.

Cliff Notes; $5000 ADM isn't as bad as people think. And quite frankly people like to talk about their standards in spending money but if $5,000 is the difference between a product you can buy and can't buy then you probably couldn't afford a $56,000 truck to start with let's just be real.

ADM does suck…but at the same time, do you want the vehicle at that price or not? I purchased a Jeep 392 last year and I paid$5,000 ADM. it’s an awesome vehicle and I love it. If you bought one today, you would pay a price hike plus an ADM….

you just have to decide is it what I want and am I willing to pay an extra $5k to have it? For my 392 I said yes and bought it. For a Raptor ranger…I would probably pay the $5k to have it

stetson

 

[SGT Ranger]

I refuse to pay $1 ADM. if ford dealers are going to do this I’ll be going elsewhere. Their product is not worth that price. When I’m ready to buy I’ll inquire and then..?

Hate to burst your bubble but if you think ADM is strictly a Ford problem on limited trims, well I'll let you find out for yourself.

I will not speak an absolutes but this is usually the thought process of someone looking into the world of limited allocation trim levels for the first time.

 

[rwolfcastle]

This is what my dealer gets insanely pissed off about. They charge MSRP or lower on every single vehicle they sell. I’m getting my RR for what the sticker says. She gets angry cause Ford explicitly tells dealers not to charge over MSRP but then does not stop giving allocations or punishing them in any other way.

I've said this before and I'll say it again: All @Ford Motor Company needs to do is temporarily stop allocations to dealers charging ADM and the markups would go away over night.

 

[SGT Ranger]

I've said this before and I'll say it again: All @Ford Motor Company needs to do is temporarily stop allocations to dealers charging ADM and the markups would go away over night.

This is like convincing a drunk they have a drinking problem. Car dealerships and car manufacturers have a symbiotic relationship.

The reason Tesla is able to succeed with the what you see is what you get sales model is because in relatively Short History they built their infrastructure from the ground up. The current dealership model has roots so deep into our past well...


S*** in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up first.

 

[Mcssls]

Hate to burst your bubble but if you think ADM is strictly a Ford problem on limited trims, well I'll let you find out for yourself.

I will not speak an absolutes but this is usually the thought process of someone looking into the world of limited allocation trim levels for the first time.

I don’t pay an ADM for Toyotas, the new Acura MDX type S in the garage or for any my my previous fords. It may not be exclusive but I won’t pay it. They charge it because fools will part with the money.

 

[goalieThreeOne]

This is like convincing a drunk they have a drinking problem. Car dealerships and car manufacturers have a symbiotic relationship.

The reason Tesla is able to succeed with the what you see is what you get sales model is because in relatively Short History they built their infrastructure from the ground up. The current dealership model has roots so deep into our past well...


S*** in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up first.

Everyone likes the free market when they get a car under invoice when demand is low. But suddenly it’s unfair when the price is hiked up because demand is high. Can’t have it both ways.

If Ford would have set the MSRP $5000 higher and give that cut over to the dealer behind the scenes no one would have batted an eyelash. Instead we have actual transparency right in front of us and people are mad.

Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. The MSRP is not an indicator of the value of the vehicle, just what Ford needs to make a profit while being competitive. It’s nothing more than an index.

 

[FishR_anger]

So I finally was about to pull the trigger on a Raptor order. Sat down with the dealer. They told me they were allocated 1 Raptor Ranger. I warned them that if there was a Market Adjustment I would have to reconsider doing this order. Well after 40 minutes of waiting, they came back was a TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLAR adjustment. Final price before trade would have been $83,000 with taxes. I'm sorry thats BS. The next closest dealer said $5000. Ugh... this hunt for one this late is an adventure.

New here but have appreciated all the info I've gotten from you folks on the raptors.
My dealer will not charge a dealer mark up. So don't give up on finding an honest dealer. According to my dealer Ford does punish dealers who do, they told me less allocation for specialty vehicles is one way and a dealer can take all kinds of orders from folks but if they don't play ball the Ford way, their allocations get cut which ultimately punishes the customers who put their orders in expecting it to be built. But like many have said you gotta do you and what you feel is right.

 

[SGT Ranger]

I don’t pay an ADM for Toyotas, the new Acura MDX type S in the garage or for any my my previous fords. It may not be exclusive but I won’t pay it. They charge it because fools will part with the money.

Okay well I guess enjoy your upscaled soccer mom SUV while I am tooting around having fun in my Raptor?

 

[SGT Ranger]

Everyone likes the free market when they get a car under invoice when demand is low. But suddenly it’s unfair when the price is hiked up because demand is high. Can’t have it both ways.

If Ford would have set the MSRP $5000 higher and give that cut over to the dealer behind the scenes no one would have batted an eyelash. Instead we have actual transparency right in front of us and people are mad.

Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. The MSRP is not an indicator of the value of the vehicle, just what Ford needs to make a profit while being competitive. It’s nothing more than an index.

I can only imagine the real world hypocrisy of anyone on here who is ever posted salty s*** about ADM. Somewhere in all their belongings they paid something stupid for a stupid useless inanimate object either for nostalgia reasons or collector reasons but then want to get all self-righteous when it comes to a vehicle. lol

$5,000 is probably a fraction of the total amount of money in my life I've spent on b******* that is probably rotting in some landfill surely under hundreds or even thousands of feet of other garbage as time has gone on.

 

[Richard Conley]

So I finally was about to pull the trigger on a Raptor order. Sat down with the dealer. They told me they were allocated 1 Raptor Ranger. I warned them that if there was a Market Adjustment I would have to reconsider doing this order. Well after 40 minutes of waiting, they came back was a TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLAR adjustment. Final price before trade would have been $83,000 with taxes. I'm sorry thats BS. The next closest dealer said $5000. Ugh... this hunt for one this late is an adventure.

I guess my dealer is saving that bombshell....but so far no mention, we'll see

 

[Fes29]

I’m seeing all kinds of BS about how people get one at MSRP, confirmed orders, factory build schedules and emails from Ford. Some are legit, don’t get me wrong.

I have come to the conclusion that the order banks aren’t officially open and that dealerships will do whatever it takes to keep your business (bait and switch) and make you think you can put in an order when in fact you can’t. Even though the build schedule says so from the factory. BS. (I hope they prove me wrong).

Allocations go to the highest bidder and if you were lucky enough to snag one, congrats! It’s a given that you’ll be paying over sticker (either dealership fees or ADM). I still see Raptor R’s and Braptors selling well above MSRP and people are still willingly paying.

Will this happen with the RR? Absolutely.

I am in no rush to buy. When the time is right, one will be on my driveway. Until then I will continue to sit back and enjoy this $hit show.

Patience is a virtue. In this case it’s a must.

 

[Raynger24]

I guess my dealer is saving that bombshell....but so far no mention, we'll see

My hunch, "bombshell." Let your doctor know the situation and I'm sure you will get a prescription of Alprazolam.

 

[BigDamnHeroes]

I have come to the conclusion that the order banks aren’t officially open and that dealerships will do whatever it takes to keep your business (bait and switch) and make you think you can put in an order when in fact you can’t. Even though the build schedule says so from the factory. BS. (I hope they prove me wrong).

You can come to that conclusion, but.. it's the wrong one.. order banks are very much open for the '24 Ranger..including the Raptor.. but dealerships have all been told they're only going to get 1 initial allocation.

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