Some people here are vastly overestimating the potential market of Raptor buyers IMO. The average Ranger or any midsized truck buyer wants it for versatility and everyday uses NOT related to going over landing or racing Baja, with obvious exceptions of camping trips and recreational activities accessible from some amount of non paved roads. There's consistent data out there something like 95% of trucks in use in the USA NEVER touch dirt at all and like SUVs are used as everyday family vehicles. Farm/Ranch vehicles are the obvious exception, but they usually serve as daily drivers as well as work uses.
I don't think it's possible to overestimate the potential RR market, simply because; regardless of the demand, Ford will always keep the number of RR's, less than demand. They've been doing that with the fullsize since inception, and for over a decade now. The demand for the RR will always be high, simply because there will never be enough.
Notice I didn't say demand, you did. Agreed Ford will limit the numbers available to keep a waiting list unfulfilled. I said potential market. There's only so many people that can afford that price point. It's far less desirable than lesser versions of XL, XLT, and Lariat that drive the bulk of annual steady purchases for mass consumption of daily drivers and that cuts across all Ford F series, not just Ranger. Raptor is a specialty vehicle like a Shelby Mustang and will always be limited.I don't think it's possible to overestimate the potential RR market, simply because; regardless of the demand, Ford will always keep the number of RR's, less than demand. They've been doing that with the fullsize since inception, and for over a decade now. The demand for the RR will always be high, simply because there will never be enough.
I agree nobody actually needs a Raptor or RR, but when it comes down to it, Actual use of a vehicle usually has very little to do with what they buy. If it did, the number of 2x4 trucks would outnumber 4x4's 100,000 to 1. To add to that, no really needs power windows, power seats, cruise control...etc.
Personally, I never have and never will use my current Ranger to it's full potential, and don't need any of the options it has.....yet my next truck is still going to have more
Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm a Bronco owner, and after watching the shitshow Ford put together over the last few years, I think a little bashing is not out of line.
sure seems that way most of the time
I own a 2022 Tremor and had a 2019 FX4 before it. I don't have huge issues with the new one, but it does seem to be lacking for how long they have been promising this revolutionary new Ranger. It seems like a 5G with a major face-lift, new plastics inside and a slightly wider track. It's fine and I'd buy one since my blood bleeds blue, but it certainly doesn't move the needle that much. The previous 5G model was good and very reliable so I hope the changes don't change that.
Question. Is the tremor package worth the cost over the fx4 since you owned both? It seems the fx4 is the way to go. For instance how is the ride compared off-road vs onroad for the series?
As far as the 5G model is concerned... Absolutely. I have no idea how the 6G FX4 will have it's suspension tuned, but my 2019 FX4 floated like a 1976 LTD going down a highway with some heaves in it. It also had excessive nose dive during heavy breaking. It felt top heavy and leaned on curvy roads. I got used to it over time, but I guarantee people that get motion sickness wouldn't have liked it.
I have owned two of the last gen Frontiers since the introduction in 2005. Both made me regret buying them. Broken windshields (on both) without rock hits within the first 3k miles, numerous squeaks and rattles before 25k, turning radius like a school bus, zero composure over potholed/rough roads. They did however have LOADS of power, but that came at the cost of crappy 15mpg in town. I get the new one has been redesigned, but I wouldn't pay $45k for that vehicle today.
yeah, but apples and oranges. Like comparing the 2000 Ranger SCab I had with 5G or even 6G. New generation Frontier created precisely to address shortcomings of the stale platform you had that was not updated for nearly 20 years. Nissan was smart they way they rolled this out. 1st introducing the new 3.8L V6 + new 9 speed trans in the last year of the outgoing model. Gave them a whole year of real-world data to tweak the drivetrain and address growing pains. Then moved it into the new redesigned overall platform- now in it's 2nd year of production. I'm not doing more than researching and comparing against 6G Ranger right now because they are offering the platform I want, and Ford hasn't divulged if it will ever come months or even years from now. Maybe never, and I'm not doing the forever guessing and waiting game I did with my Maverick if I don't need to.
