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Yes, sir. This is the most important part

"Ford Performance Kit with warranty is purchased, installed, and registered as directed"

Being; installed by Ford service dept or a ASE certified mechanic.

Like I said, if you are truly concerned about your warranty and have any questions or doubts, call or email (better for your records) Ford Performance yourself and don't trust the internet.
Just be aware that it's is a 36 months, 36,000 mile power train warranty provided by Ford Performance. After that time period, should you have any power train issues that can be attributed to the extra power generated by the tune, Ford will 100% deny you coverage.
Do not believe some of the posts here that claim otherwise.
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Just be aware that it's is a 36 months, 36,000 mile power train warranty provided by Ford Performance. After that time period, should you have any power train issues that can be attributed to the extra power generated by the tune, Ford will 100% deny you coverage.
Do not believe some of the posts here that claim otherwise.
So are you saying they'll deny the rest of your initial 5yr/60,000 mile powertrain warranty when you make a claim after the 3yr/36,000 mile warranty is over and they can say it was tune related?
 

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So are you saying they'll deny the rest of your initial 5yr/60,000 mile powertrain warranty when you make a claim after the 3yr/36,000 mile warranty is over and they can say it was tune related?
That's right. If you window the block, you're SOL. If you develop an oil pan leak, they'll cover it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for more power. I've knowingly voided the manufacturer's warranty several times in the quest for more power.
I'm just trying to correct some of the falsehoods being spread here about the factory warranty not being affected.
 

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Just be aware that it's is a 36 months, 36,000 mile power train warranty provided by Ford Performance. After that time period, should you have any power train issues that can be attributed to the extra power generated by the tune, Ford will 100% deny you coverage.
Do not believe some of the posts here that claim otherwise.
That's right. If you window the block, you're SOL. If you develop an oil pan leak, they'll cover it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for more power. I've knowingly voided the manufacturer's warranty several times in the quest for more power.
I'm just trying to correct some of the falsehoods being spread here about the factory warranty not being affected.
Yup, I concur with his statements with my own personal inquiries. This also applies to ESP warranties also.
 

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So are you saying they'll deny the rest of your initial 5yr/60,000 mile powertrain warranty when you make a claim after the 3yr/36,000 mile warranty is over and they can say it was tune related?
No, go read post #170 in this thread. This is straight from a Ford Performance Supervisor in writing. What both of these individuals are commenting, are false and misleading owners.👍🇺🇸
 

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Got my tuner from Lethal Performance today, and I installed the tune when I got home tonight. It took about 30 minutes in total.

I didn’t have time to drive the truck tonight, but I’ll report back in the next day or so.
 

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So after a little driving here's my observations:

Unfortunately the tune DOES NOT give you ASS memory...you still gotta shut it off every time☹

Definitely increases max boost, and boost is more aggressive! I am seeing 23-24 psi when hard into it. Didn't see boost in that range before, it was rare to get over 18.

How does this translate to butt dyno feel? Well it always was fast, but now I kinda feel like a trip to the dragstrip is needed to REALLY see full performance...it's almost wasted on the street. Drive careful folks 😁
 

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Recieved mine today, and installed right away. For reference I own an ASE independent shop, and I am a former Ford dealer tech, so I do mine myself, but, ANYBODY could do this...there's literally no way to screw it up. Unlike Bronco, it worked properly right out of the box. Also I DID notice that when saving the stock cal it also saved the steering rack cal...this leads me to believe we will be getting the FP steering rack soon, and can use procal to program it (although on Bronco that has been hit and miss...w/emphasis on miss!).

1st thing you are gonna want to do, if you have never had one of these, is start an account on performanceparts.ford.com and assign your voucher code to that account. Then if you are having a 3rd party install for you, give them those credentials (email, password, voucher code). After that it's very simple. Connect the blank procal to the desktop w/procal software installed. Allow it to check and update firmware (while still blank). Once done attach the procal to vehicle OBD port and allow it to save stock cal (does it automatically from the "programming" tab). It will marry itself to the vehicle's VIN at this point. Then, return the procal to the desktop where the desktop tool will upload the stock cal, and prompt you for your login credentials for Ford Performance. If everything is correct it will burn your credit for the tune, and download the tune to the procal. Device is now married and loaded w/the tune software. Then back to the OBD port and (best to have a jump box on the battery just in case), flash the performance cal...takes about 10 minutes.

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Hi! Nice explanation! As you were a former Ford tech guy, do you think I'll be able do uptade my Ranger Raptor software since I'm from Brazil? Do you think tere's a VIN restricion for the non US veichles?
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Hi! Nice explanation! As you were a former Ford tech guy, do you think I'll be able do uptade my Ranger Raptor software since I'm from Brazil? Do you think tere's a VIN restricion for the non US veichles?
Cheers!
I'm pretty certain there is a restriction of some kind...couldn't tell you if there are possible workarounds. The tune says North America only, and still only 49 states in the US
 

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I had to contact Ford Performance because my tune didn't come with voucher ID and asked again about the warranty. Said the same thing I and a few others have said and posted CORRECTLY before:

second question is the powertrain warranty.
at 10:21, Sep 13:

it comes with a 3yr 36k from when the truck was new
at 10:21, Sep 13:

https://performanceparts.ford.com/download/PDFS/fpp-warranty.pdf
at 10:22, Sep 13:

as long as it is installed by a Ford dealership or ASE certified mechanic. The proof has to be submitted to Ford Performance
at 10:22, Sep 13:

if i have a friend that is ASE certified can he install it or do i need to have a invoice to prove that a shop installed it?
at 10:23, Sep 13:

it would have to be on a work order, with the name and number of the ASE mechanic
 

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The way Ford determines if there is a tune is by the ignition cycle counter. When the PCM is reflashed, the ignition cycle counter is reset. If you have an issue right after flashing or if you flash back to stock before taking it in for service, the ignition cycle count will be low which is indicative of a tune.
 

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The way Ford determines if there is a tune is by the ignition cycle counter. When the PCM is reflashed, the ignition cycle counter is reset. If you have an issue right after flashing or if you flash back to stock before taking it in for service, the ignition cycle count will be low which is indicative of a tune.
That doesn't really sound like "definitive proof" if that's the case.
I mean, what defines "low"? What about folks that just don't drive that often.
 

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That doesn't really sound like "definitive proof" if that's the case.
I mean, what defines "low"? What about folks that just don't drive that often.
For folks that don't drive often, their mileage would also be low. But if you had, say, 8 ignition cycles and 5,000 miles, it's obvious the PCM was reflashed.

Based on the information I can find from Ford, there is no definitive way to determine if a tune has been installed.

Documentation does go further into detail about other aftermarket parts and other items (dash mount) indicating a possible tune. However, if a purely stock vehicle (other than tune) comes in, there is no definitive way to tell it has been tuned, *as far as I can tell.*

Edit: in the Ford technician forums, I did see one screenshot where there was a warning message tied to a VIN that Ford Performance parts were installed. If anyone wants to DM me their VIN after they install the tune, let me know and I can the dealer site to see if your VIN is flagged.
 
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That doesn't really sound like "definitive proof" if that's the case.
I mean, what defines "low"? What about folks that just don't drive that often.
I’m not completely sure here. I seriously doubt if there’s any different in this practice between US manufactures. I haven’t looked at this ECU software on the FDRS or a bench which will show what is actually available.

There maybe a software revision number or simply a sequential number. The only exception; is with some German high end vehicles which utilize a special coded access number. If it’s not imputed as required, it will lock the ECU.

Most OEM manufactures have a flash counter within the ECU software programming. Can’t be toggled on/off or adjusted just like the odometer module. This counter simply counts the number of times the ECU software has been flashed. This can be directly compared to the current OEM software version upgrades produced.

More than likely, this is the case with every US automotive manufacturer.👍🇺🇸
 
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I’m not completely sure here. I seriously doubt if there’s any different between US manufactures or ECU software programming. I haven’t looked at this ECU software on the FDRS or a bench.

There maybe a software revision number or simply a sequential number. The only exception, is with some German high end vehicles which utilize a special coded access number. If it’s not imputed as required, it will lock the ECU.

Most OEM manufactures have a flash counter within the ECU software programming. Can’t be toggled off or adjusted. This counter simply counts the number of times the ECU software has been flashed. This can be directly compared to the current OEM software version upgrades produced.

More than likely, this is the case with every US automotive manufacturer.👍🇺🇸
Looking through the Ford docs and tech discussion board, I could not find any reference to a flash counter. I was a bit surprised by that.

Edit: that's not to say these PCMs don't have a flash counter, I just couldn't find a reference to it.
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