Try different trims and packages, and you'll get your answer. It's not an even price hike across the board.I built a 24 XLT 2WD and compared it to a 23 that I built, trying to match options as closely as I could, and there’s only about $250 difference. What am I doing wrong? According to y’all, the 24 should cost thousands more???
They want to keep the demand propped up. Control the supply, control the demand. They already stated they don't want to go back to pre-pandemic and supply chain fiasco times. They want to under produce to drive everyone to ordering at msrp instead of having to do incentives to move off lots. They saw they made more moving less with that model and are attempting to maintain it.
I do hope we go to the old model. Cars are something people need quickly and most don't have the luxury of waiting months, or years at a time for. As far as the Raptor demand, I can understand not wanting to build a ton of extras but why not build to order instead of this insane allotment game?
Depending upon how your dealership falls in the q4 allocation model and how many Raptors ford can and decides to produce after the initial allotment of 1 each it could be a good while. If your much below 1 or two on the list for a Raptor, I'd not expect to see it for close to a year or longer dependent on the volume size of your dealer and how well they earn allocation in the q4 allocation model that's released by Ford.
One day Canada will make a car we all want to get, and we'll be the ones waitingWe will likely get it in a few months. Nobody gives a damn about us.
right, that's what I'm afraid of and irritates me. I'm willing to give them the money and the way I look at it is they don't want it and would rather lose the money and market share. Build them as orders come in and make money. All the Raptors make big profits for Ford, why not take it.
I've had maybe 3 out of 20 dealers tell me they will sell at msrp. Although the wait will likely be way too long and I will have likely decided on a 24 tacoma off road by then. The majority of the dealers are out right arrogant and makes me not want to ever even considering a Ford vehicle. I'm going to wait and see how this pans out over the next six months and be diligent. The one dealer said he had an offer of 8 grand over and asked if I would offer more, I asked what happens if someone offers more tomorrow and guess what he said.........what a circle jerk auction.
Trust me, you don’t want “dual zone electronic climate control”. If it’s anything like the Bronco’s system, it’s a bug-ridden, mind-of-its-own, pain in the ass. I really want the heated power seats that you can only get with the XLT High package, but I could live without the rear power slider and the larger display screen, and I hate the electronic A/C system. But this is where we are these days. A la carte ordering is a thing of the past…
In that for quite a while they will only be getting one Ranger Raptor, and they have no idea how many, much less when they will get more, I totally understand them asking for more than msrp. The mark up on them is not thousands and thousands like you all think, as Ford has been trimming margins more and more every year, and as Jim Farley has said, Ford is pushing for a "this is the price period model". The days of huge margins between invoice and msrp on most vehicles is quickly fading away.
Dealers make a killing on financing, extended warranties, paint/interior protection plans, and dealer options. The few thousand they get from a single Raptor should burn any good will they had with the customer.
Further, all of my Toyota dealer friends are going above MSRP on their TRD pro Tacomas, and other limited production models too. They may not for a friend or really good customer, but they are in most cases, so this isn't limited to Ford dealers. So saying you'll just run to Toyota may not accomplish anything.
