2.3L and 2.7L Engines

[Mike in UT]

I don’t buy things from people that don’t know about them. What’s the point if they can’t answer my questions correctly. An ignorant plumber might be honest, but honest doesn’t fix my pipes.

Well, ingnorance can be fixed. Integrity can't.
Having said that, there are several Ford dealers right on the other side of the mountain.

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[SGT Ranger]

Any word on when we'll be able to order a Ranger with the 2.7? My local dealership insists that the 2.7 will only be available on the Raptor (!) and that they're not getting any Raptors on allocation.

Well your dealer is an idiot because the RRaptor only comes with 3.0

 

[fordtrks4ever]

From what I have been reading at this site and others is:
Available to order 2.7 late fall
Production Job 2
But as we all know that could change.
I am also waiting for the 2.7 to order.

 

[Mike in UT]

Well your dealer is an idiot because the RRaptor only comes with 3.0

I know this.
Also, talked to other dealers on the other side of the mountain, and while neither of them would say when the 2.7 will be available for order, they both confirmed they knew about it and would call me when it was available.

 

[Raynger24]

The Ford 2.3 EcoBoost V4 is a good engine. With direct injection, Twin Independent Variable Camshaft Timing, and forced induction, it easily generates over 300 horsepower. It is also fuel efficient, and gets an EPA-estimated 19 MPG in the city and 26 MGP on the highway. I think this engine is a good overall choice.

The 2.7 EcoBoost V6 features port and direct fuel injection. It's made of a strong compacted graphite iron block and aluminum cylinder heads. It features a twin-turbocharged and is intercooled. It is also proving itself to be a good and reliable engine.

It seems it really depends on what you are using the engine for. As a daily driver, towing lighter loads, the 2.3 is more than adequate. For towing heavy stuff (such as RV's), major off roading, or you prefer a V6, then 2.7.

Overall, both the 2.3 and 2.7 EcoBoost engines are full of modern tech that delivers performance and reliability. With proper maintenance and care, they are both more than capable of pushing past 200,000 miles.

 

[Scooter]

The Ford 2.3 EcoBoost V4 is a good engine. With direct injection, Twin Independent Variable Camshaft Timing, and forced induction, it easily generates over 300 horsepower. It is also fuel efficient, and gets an EPA-estimated 19 MPG in the city and 26 MGP on the highway.

The 2.7 EcoBoost V6 features port and direct fuel injection. It's made of a strong compacted graphite iron block and aluminum cylinder heads. It features a twin-turbocharged and is intercooled. It is also proving itself to be a good and reliable engine.

It seems it really depends on what you are using the engine for. As daily driver, pulling lighter loads, the 2.3 is more than adequate. Pulling heavy stuff, major off roading, or you prefer a V6, then 2.7.

2.3L still makes 270 horsepower and 310 lb.-ft. of torque. Its an inline 4. The 2.7-liter EcoBoost V6, which delivers 315 horsepower and 400 lb.-ft. of torque is meant to compete with the competitors higher output motors

 

[Gator21]

For the past couple weeks I’ve been debating between the 2.3 and 2.7. Initially I was hoping for the 2.7 to be available in the new Ranger and was 100% set on that. However, the price of the Ranger is more than I was guesstimating and I’d really prefer not to wait a year to get back in a truck for several reasons. That has me considering the 2.3.

I test drove a 2021 or 2022 Tremor the other day, and it had enough pick up and go on the flat roads of Florida, although I’m not sure if the Tremor is tuned differently than a regular Ranger. But my main concern is longevity since I plan to keep the truck for more than a decade. Ford changing the 2.3 in the Mustang to be dual injection basically confirms solely being direct injection isn’t a good thing.

Decisions, decisions…

 

[bill_AUS]

What about the 3.0 in the Raptor? Supposedly coming with 430 ft-lb of torque. The internet says the 10r60 maxes out at 443 ft-lb. That seems awful close. Then again, the Bronco Raptor makes 440 ft-lb and also has the 10r60 so…

The 600 Nm figure is a nominal value, each ratio has its own torque limit. So on engines that produce a lot of torque, they are torque limited in the gears where they have the ability to exceed the limit of the transmission. As an example, Volvo cars used to use an Aisin 6 speed transmission that had a nominal torque limit of 420 Nm, with an engine that produced 550Nm. In first gear the engine was limited to 320, second 360, and third 400 Nm. This ensured the transmission did not have the clutch packs destroyed.

 

[Mock01]

The 600 Nm figure is a nominal value, each ratio has its own torque limit. So on engines that produce a lot of torque, they are torque limited in the gears where they have the ability to exceed the limit of the transmission. As an example, Volvo cars used to use an Aisin 6 speed transmission that had a nominal torque limit of 420 Nm, with an engine that produced 550Nm. In first gear the engine was limited to 320, second 360, and third 400 Nm. This ensured the transmission did not have the clutch packs destroyed.

That’s a great explanation and makes sense. Thank you!

 

[bill_AUS]

As an aside, the diesels have continued with the 10R80 for two main reasons, our RoW Rangers have higher weights than yours, and the diesels are expected to do heavy duty work. We don't have the F series here as work trucks, and the single cab Ranger rivals an F-250 for payload.

 

[Scooter]

10R60 is a better fit for the 2024 Ford Ranger It’s newer, designed to be more efficient, and significantly lighter to boot, to the tune of 29 pounds. Ford engineered the 10R60 with less parasitic losses as well, for better fuel economy. It sounds like the Nominal Torque Limit will reduce the torque to the ground if acceded. Thus making over 600 Nm is not useful in a performance upgrade. The 440 lb-ft or 600 Nm the Raptor makes is the maximum before the 10 speed starts limiting the torque output.

Does the 10r60 still have this Sport mode capability.

 

[bill_AUS]

It sounds like the Nominal Torque Limit will reduce the torque to the ground if acceded. Thus making over 600 Nm is not useful in a performance upgrade. The 440 lb-ft or 600 Nm the Raptor makes is the maximum before the 10 speed starts limiting the torque output.

It may or may not have a torque limit of 600 Nm in any or all of the gears. In any case the Raptor makes 542 Nm.

Does the 10r60 still have this Sport mode capability.

That's software, it'll depend on what the vehicle is equipped with.

 

[Scooter]

NA Raptor is stated as 430 ft-lbs 583 Nm. It looks like the AU model is down on output maybe due to Octane in Gas or Emmision Standards

 

[Pac987]

Is there any reason to believe that 4 auto could be offered with the 2.7?

 

[Deleted member 5785]

Is there any reason to believe that 4 auto could be offered with the 2.7?

We can hope

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