Hi, I put both. Sorry if I was not clear, yes, production for MY24 is suppose to begin in August (or some say September 2023). But I tend to be a bit verbose when I write, and I can be confusing! Anyway, gotcha...all good!
I kind of overlooked this thread at first, but this is actually interesting information. I assumed incorrectly going retail on the RR would ALSO give the dealer a stock unit as well. It is interesting that is not the case. So, again, I just wonder why Ford went retail and just not allow the custom stock orders to go through? ? I guess it does not really matter for those of you that want an RR and this hopefully does not impede the process.
Thanks for the update!
Tacoma has had a much more aggressive look than any other mid-size and their sales numbers prove that's what buyers want. Yes, the other factors you mentioned also matter but look at GMs sales (they hit every other category you mentioned except looks) and you will see why they had to combine GMC and Chevy sales to pad their sales numbers.
I absolutley will pay more for looks and technology that is useful for my puposes on a non RR trim and others will as well. I think the redesigned 6G Ranger in all trims looks awesome, and the 6G certainly has a more aggressive look then the 5G. In these days one has to be careful not to get factory add-ons (constraints) that will keep your truck from possibly getting built. So, I usually go aftermarket for that, why take any chances. I agree, if you need a work horse, probably go full size. I write probably, because for many the mid-size can fullfill their particular needs. I also agree mid-size for what I would say "car driving" but having the ability to put items in the bed that would not fit in a car or SUV. I'm not much of an off-roader, as I will admit I want to keep my new truck looking new. I guess off-roading trucks do look more "agressive" with all of the stronger/upgraded materials needed and OEM design. Personally, sometimes I think some folks go a little crazy with all of the aftermarket add on's. To my eye, the RR has it just right, so I see the desire for it. My only thing is (probably because I'm OCD) the fear of some major rock dent or something damaging my new 60k+ truck!
Just a thought, perhaps because retail take's priority over stock, and Ford see's the demand for the RR, they did not want the RR customers waiting, so they changed it to retail. One can ONLY HOPE after the last two years of slow retail order fulfillment that Ford has learned it's lessons.
I actually opted to not have the factory put in the bed liner for this exact reason unforeseen delays. I'd rather get the bed liner put in locally after delivery.
That is EXACTLY why I didn’t order the spray in bed liner, also I read that Ford has had issues with the liner peeling because the painted surface isn’t scuffed before application. I did order the decal & mud flaps though so I’m hopeful there are no constraints on either of those!!
They also spray over your cleats so you can’t remove your tie downs without a chisel. I saw one in a 23 Ranger and I was shocked at how poor it looked.
I'm not sure about decals causing delay issues, but I took off the mudflaps. The Ford Video Guy was mentioning they were becoming a constraint on some other Ford model. I figured it could very well become the same for the Ranger. I do know simple mudflaps were causing constraint issues on my prior Maverick order which niether myself or salesman knew. As I'm sure many others on here have, I have learned generally not to add little "extra goodies" that can be easily obtained aftermarket. My advice, ANYTHING you can do after market (except for the $495 IV hitch which seems okay at this point, and is a good price) I would get rid of. Again, why take any chances when something like mud flaps are so easy to get. Just my two Cents.
Aftermarket mud flaps look better anyway. I sprung for the wheel locks because I live in a city where you can’t leave anything that’s not nailed down.I'm not sure about decals causing delay issues, but I took off the mudflaps. The Ford Video Guy was mentioning they were becoming a constraint on some other Ford model. I figured it could very well become the same for the Ranger. I do know simple mudflaps were causing constraint issues on my prior Maverick order which niether myself or salesman knew. As I'm sure many others on here have, I have learned generally not to add little "extra goodies" that can be easily obtained aftermarket. My advice, ANYTHING you can do after market (except for the $495 IV hitch which seems okay at this point, and is a good price) I would get rid of. Again, why take any chances when something like mud flaps are so easy to get. Just my two Cents.
I’ve already seen this. That refers to the spare tire lock which is different. I’ve already removed that from my order. Wheel locks are still an available option.You are going to want to kill me, but...I'm attaching a Ford bulletin on the wheel locks. Granted, it states for "stock RR orders." However, I personally would translate that to retail as well. I know, it's like well "what in the hell can I order?" Basically, staying away from anything you can add aftermarket I personally believe is a good idea, this is just my own opinion. As things are now, practically anything aftermarket there is a chance could slow the build down. As large car manufactures have gone to the On-Demand-Manufacturing approach built around producing only what they project will be needed. This has been a partial reason for the cause of these constraints (along with many parts made in every country but the United States) Anyway, if the contracted manufacturer can't build enough fast enough, or the part(s) are stuck in some ship in Long Beach, or the trucker shortage (the list goes on) Ford can't finish (or schedule) the order. In the not so distant past, parts were ordered in large minimum quantities and those parts stored in inventory. I'm not familar with their wheel lock system and if it's proprietary or not, but if you can go aftermarket, I would. Bear in mind I am just an average Joe, and I don't claim to be an expert on any of the above, so take from what I write as you will.
Seems to be a generational thing. I don't know anyone over 40 with a family or retired that is focused on taking their daily driver "off roading" or prioritizing aggressive looks over value and functionality and price point. Recreational use and CAMPING off the beaten path using some dirt roads, yes absolutely. Nobody needs 1 of these plastic faced transformers for those uses and doesn't care about LOOKING aggressive getting there at all lol.
