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Has anyone who has installed an aftermarket IC checked before and after charge temps? You can configure your dash to show this.

In normal driving, 60-ish ambient temp, with the boost gauge showing right around 0, I show 100+ charge temp. Which is a huge increase over ambient. This was again normal driving, not sitting for long or driving hard so therefore should not be a bunch of heat soak. I also note the boost reading as something I noticed with my previous car is that at significant vacuum readings, the charge temp usually climbs quite a bit but then drops once at 0 or starting to get into boost.

My previous car (which I sold to get the RR) was a Fiesta ST. I had a Cobb AP which I used for real-time gauges. I had a CPe intercooler which almost always kept charge temps within 10 deg of ambient. As others have noted in this thread and something that was found to be the case with the stock Fiesta ST IC, the main issue is heat soak and once heat soaked, it takes a while to bring the temps back down. But in a non heat soak scenario, it is quite disappointing to see such a huge delta between ambient temp and charge temp.

On a related side note, something cool that the Fiesta had was a temp sensor right after the turbo then one after the IC. So using the Cobb AP, you could really see the effectiveness of the IC. It’s disappointing you can’t get that post turbo charge temp in the RR. At least not stock, and maybe I’m missing something.
You can see after IC temps in one of the screens on your gauge cluster. I have on my MyView the inlet temp and the charge temp as my usual driving configuration
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You can see after IC temps in one of the screens on your gauge cluster. I have on my MyView the inlet temp and the charge temp as my usual driving configuration
Yes, post IC temp is what I was asking if anyone who has an aftermarket IC is checking. What I was saying we DON'T seem to have is a post turbo / pre IC temp
 

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Has anyone who has installed an aftermarket IC checked before and after charge temps? You can configure your dash to show this.

In normal driving, 60-ish ambient temp, with the boost gauge showing right around 0, I show 100+ charge temp. Which is a huge increase over ambient. This was again normal driving, not sitting for long or driving hard so therefore should not be a bunch of heat soak. I also note the boost reading as something I noticed with my previous car is that at significant vacuum readings, the charge temp usually climbs quite a bit but then drops once at 0 or starting to get into boost.

My previous car (which I sold to get the RR) was a Fiesta ST. I had a Cobb AP which I used for real-time gauges. I had a CPe intercooler which almost always kept charge temps within 10 deg of ambient. As others have noted in this thread and something that was found to be the case with the stock Fiesta ST IC, the main issue is heat soak and once heat soaked, it takes a while to bring the temps back down. But in a non heat soak scenario, it is quite disappointing to see such a huge delta between ambient temp and charge temp.

On a related side note, something cool that the Fiesta had was a temp sensor right after the turbo then one after the IC. So using the Cobb AP, you could really see the effectiveness of the IC. It’s disappointing you can’t get that post turbo charge temp in the RR. At least not stock, and maybe I’m missing something.
After some further thought, I'm wondering if the 2 platforms are a little too apples to oranges. Even though the Fiesta is a sub-compact car, the IC frontal area is much greater than what the RR has. The aftermarket IC's all note that they increase volume, but the frontal area is the same (for ones that are direct bolt in with no modifications required). So even though the IC's are thicker, there are diminishing returns with a thicker IC, becasue as the ambient air moves though the core, it picks up heat. By the time that air is at the back of the core, it has picked up a lot of heat and there is much less heat removal at the back of the core.

Another consideration, I have no idea how / when the active shutters work. Maybe at freeway speeds under low RPM, or load, or boost, they are closed so there is little to no air through the IC anyway. Which would have a big impact on what post IC temps are at just freeway cruising.
 

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Was on a vendor site and saw turbosmart has an IC offering now? Both black and silver finish. But i'm not finding it on Turbosmart's site.

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Was on a vendor site and saw turbosmart has an IC offering now? Both black and silver finish. But i'm not finding it on Turbosmart's site.

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Can anyone who has installed an aftermarket IC report back with real-world results on IATs and fuel economy? Preferably on the RR with the Ford Performance tune. Much appreciated!
 

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I have the Wagner intercooler on my '24 and I currently have the FP tune on it.
I also have the ADD Edge front bumper with the 4 lights installed in the center.

I've had the set up since early July and my IAT's have stayed about the same as stock and my fuel economy has also stayed roughly the same. (unless my right foot feels a bit rowdy that day 😁)
 

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I have the Wagner intercooler on my '24, and I currently have the FP tune on it.
I also have the ADD Edge front bumper with the 4 lights installed in the center.

I've had the set up since early July and my IAT's have stayed about the same as stock and my fuel economy has also stayed roughly the same. (unless my right foot feels a bit rowdy that day 😁)
Thanks for the response. That’s a bummer. I had a conversation with someone running a Cobb setup on a 2.7 Bronco, claiming he is getting near 3-5mpg better on the highway. If that was the case, the extra highway range would have been nice on this truck.
 

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I normally average between 16 - 18 mpg in Sport mode.

It has essentially stayed in that range before and after the intercooler and tune. Obviously it will drop if I'm on the go pedal more aggressively :).

I had the truck barely 3 days before I took a trip to visit family back in the Midwest and it experienced 70mph+ on mostly interstate roads for roughly 1500 miles each way.

When I got home it had 3300 miles on the odometer and I had kept track of fuel prices and how much I put in at each stop. I started out at barely 15mpg and by the time I returned it was hovering around 17 to 18 mpg. It has stayed that way ever since.
 

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Thanks for the response. That’s a bummer. I had a conversation with someone running a Cobb setup on a 2.7 Bronco, claiming he is getting near 3-5mpg better on the highway. If that was the case, the extra highway range would have been nice on this truck.
I've ran CVFab, ProcessWest Stage2, Turbosmart, Wagner, ....i think thats it. No difference in fuel mileage for me.
 

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I dont know much about intercoolers but I read a lot in these forums and watch Dave automotive channel on youtube and he swears about changing intercoolers on diesel trucks...

But on a brand new ranger XLT with 4k miles, why would I change my intercooler? I'm really curious. I understand it keeps things cooler but is the regular ranger intercooler on the v6 that bad? if you buy a brand new truck and have to replace a part like that.. just seems odd or unnecessary. I'm not an expert on the matter so hoping the community can shed some light.

Edit: I just read this entire thread and MAV asked similar questions so I guess the stock IC is shit..LOL.
 

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I dont know much about intercoolers but I read a lot in these forums and watch Dave automotive channel on youtube and he swears about changing intercoolers on diesel trucks...

But on a brand new ranger XLT with 4k miles, why would I change my intercooler? I'm really curious. I understand it keeps things cooler but is the regular ranger intercooler on the v6 that bad? if you buy a brand new truck and have to replace a part like that.. just seems odd or unnecessary. I'm not an expert on the matter so hoping the community can shed some light.

Edit: I just read this entire thread and MAV asked similar questions so I guess the stock IC is shit..LOL.
It's not shit. It operates within it's intended capabilities.
All of this can get very technical, science, math, blah.

What's something you have upgraded on your truck, that now it does X better than it did with the factory part. Tires? Brake pads? Wiper Blades? These are made for the masses. As you demand more of your truck in whatever capacity, then those parts could be upgraded to satisfy your above average use case.

Intercooler.
Your twin turbo truck pulls in air, compresses it, which makes it hotter, then runs it through the intercooler (like a radiator) to try and cool it back down before it goes into the throttle body, mixes with air/fuel, combusts, then leaves.

The ecu has safety measures in place that says....hey, its getting hot in here, don't send as much power, as you're towing up a steep grade. So the truck feels slower as it's reducing power.

To combat increasing exterior temps, towing, hauling, etc. & have more consistent power (like what was advertised when you purchased), buy a high performance aftermarket intercooler.

It shows up more often in lower hp/tq vehicles, vs a 1200ft lb tq diesel that is towing up the same hill. You're going from 400tq to 300tq, they may be from 1200 to 1000tq. Not as noticeable.


Hope this makes sense. My mind works with crayons.

The technical stuff someone else can chime in about knock, timing, iat's, tables, boost, etc.
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